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Vietnam has its own interest to secure.

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And you, Yale Guen Mar, are challenging Vietnam for the effrontery?

Yale Guen Mar, you have been marching joyfully on soc.culture.china for celebrating PLA's onslaught against the countries you denigrate as the "seven dwarfs".

Ho Chi Minh had rightly observed at the height of his fight against French colonial rulers, "It is better to sniff French dung for a while than to eat Chinese dung all our lives".

China's colonial claims on neighboring countries and seas rest firmly on its imperialist actions of the past. It cannot be justified. By pushing them, PRC's CCP regime has become a menace to nearly 2 dozen nations in the neighborhood. Beijing's bandit regime is determined to to make them kowtow to the wannabe iimperial master.

Before calling the kettle black, the pot should look at itself more critically. The way CCP is advancing its imperialist ambitions is truly breath-taking. It has taken a lot of chutzpah for it to carve out that U-shaped claim on the South China Sea for itself.

The whole purpose of the CCP regime's obscene claim is to claim most of the South China Sea and East China Sea as its territorial waters for the purpose of usurping the natural resources in the sea and on the sea-bed and under for itself.

China, for example, has a long history of imperial campaigns against Vietnam. Ho Chi Minh had led the struggle for many many years against the French and the USA. But he well knew who were the worst enemy.That is why he had commented at the height of his fight against French colonial rulers, "It is better to sniff French dung for a while than to eat Chinese dung all our lives".

CCP's imperialist campaign against its neighbors well proves how right Ho Chi Minh was.


The CCP Mandarins are dragging PRC down the same slippery path that was forced upon Japan by the Tojo regime and for the same reason - its unabashed expansionism.


Beijing regime's lust for raw materials has fueled its colonial agenda. In this, it is behaving exactly as the Tojo regime had during the WW II era.

The Pacific nations are all aware that imperialist China has come to believe like rstx that "Today, it's all about military power, the only thing counts." In 1979, the CCP dictatorship under Deng Xiaoping's helmsmanship caused the death of nearly 150,000 human soldiers just to "teach Vietnam a lesson". It is another matter that a significant proportion of the dead were Chinese soldiers. But that mattered very little to lull the blood-lust of the CCP dictatorship in Beijing.


In fact, China's small neighbors thank USA for the fact that China hasn't dared since 1979 to launch a bloody invasion to teach any of its small neighbors a lesson. As far as the Pacific nations are concerned, it is the USA that is providing a shield against the blood lust of the CCP dictatorship.


As far as the Pacific countries (Japan, Korea, Taiwan, the Philippines, Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia, Indonesia, Australia, New Zealand etc.) are concerned, it is the CCP dictatorship in Beijing that is the greatest menace to world peace.



The Munich agreement gave in to Nazi regime's demand for Sudetenland. But this only whetted the Nazi regime's addiction to aggrandizement. The Nazi regime went on to lay claims on Austria and then to Poland and then to Russia and France and then to the whole world.

The Beijing bandit regime's imperialist agenda is expanding exponentially. Now it is disputing Japan's sovereignty over Okinawa on the basis of Okinawa's tributary relationship with China some 500 years ago. The CCP dictatorship in Beijing is becoming as much a menace to world peace as the Tojo regime and the Hitler regime were in their days:

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http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/17-07-2012/121658-china_territorial_claims-0/ ;

China has territorial claims to nearly 20 countries

17.07.2012

Chinese leader Mao Zedong not only built a strong country but also outlined a global goal: "We must conquer the globe where we will create a powerful state." Today, China has territorial claims to all its neighbors. Naturally, the U.S. is dreaming of becoming a mediator in resolving disputes in the region. But it seems that Beijing absolutely does not care about their opinion.

Burma, Laos, Northern India, Vietnam, Nepal, Bhutan, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, the Ryukyu Islands, 300 islands of the South China, East China and Yellow Seas, as well as Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia, Taiwan, South Kazakhstan, the Afghan province of Bahdashan, Transbaikalia and the Far East to South Okhotsk - here is the complete list of areas that, according to Zedong, were lost due to the fall of the Qing empire. All of these countries and regions combined exceed the territory of modern China. Not all complaints are voiced by the Government of China in the international arena, but within the country the imperialist ambitions have not been lost, but rather, are actively promoted.

The PRC authorities talk out loud only about the areas that, at least theoretically, can be taken away from Japan and Korea. Tokyo is regularly frustrated not only because of the travel of the Russian leaders to the Kuril Islands, but also about the Chinese ships freely entering the disputed Senkaku Islands waters. Beijing believes that the Islands are called Diaoyu, and they belonged to China, but the malicious Japanese tricked the U.S. into giving them to Japan because after World War II the uninhabited archipelago was in the US jurisdiction.

Significant reserves of natural gas were found on the islands. For the growing industry of China and stagnant Japan it is more than a serious argument in favor of the struggle for the archipelago, no matter what it is called. Not to mention the fish that is found there in large quantities. To date, the only agreement the parties have reached in the negotiations is on the joint development of oil fields. In addition, if the Japanese behave more or less decently, the Chinese are regularly caught for illegal fishing in the area.

Any territorial dispute, but rather, its resolution, is a serious precedent. If China's claim in respect of at least one territory from the list of the "lost" is satisfied, the Chinese machine would be unstoppable. Despite the fact that the Chinese are very pleased to partner with Russia and have always supported Russia in the UN Security Council, in person, on the sidelines, its diplomats supposedly jokingly hint to their Russian colleagues: you must understand that soon you will have to share the Far East? China has more than a billion people, while Russia's vast territory barely has 150 million.

These dangerous trends - demographic, and as a result, geopolitical - must sound scary to the Russian government, but so far it seems that it is happy with the fact that Beijing makes territorial claims only to Seoul and Tokyo. In 2005 Russia had already given China a bounty in the form of 337 square kilometers of land in the area of Big Island (upper Argun River in the Chita region) and two sites in the vicinity of the islands Tarabarov and Big Ussuri near the confluence of the Amur and Ussuri.

However, none of the leaders of the military departments of ASEAN that includes all debating countries agree to recognize, for example, the fact that Diaoyu belongs to Japan. Instead, the defense ministers of Vietnam, Indonesia, Australia, Thailand and Singapore urged the Japanese authorities to proceed with caution and within the framework of the international law. These countries certainly do not need a resolution to the dispute because in that case their territory will be separated from China only by perseverance of the latter.

They are silent about the "Iodo island" (the Chinese version is Suenchzhao. - Ed) in the East China Sea. The sneaky Chinese took the principle of dividing the Arctic as an example and now claim that the underwater ridge of this tiny piece of land is under close control of the Chinese. Since the Iodo is closer to Korea, in 2003 the Koreans built an uninhabitable marine research station there. From the standpoint of the international law, this rock in general should not be the subject of a debate.

In any case, the controversy continues, Japan and South Korea remain to be supported by their all-time ally - the United States. For the US, the unification of Southeast Asian Nations is a chance to save their own economy, because in that case the World Trade Center will move there, where currently there are no transnational corporations in the amount sufficient for the U.S.

The success of the White House in the region does not depend on the strength that America loves to show any chance it has, but rather, diplomacy, as the countries of ASEAN and Asia-Pacific region do not trust each other or anyone outside the regional boundaries. However, Washington is trusted here because of the support of Seoul and Tokyo. However, China has already pushed Japan out of the ranks of the largest economies in the world, and the structure of the region is no longer formed on spatial basis.

Therefore, territorial claims of China, and not Russia, India or, for example, Australia are so important for Washington. Beijing is the only capital of the world, ready to use force in the struggle for the sake of expansion. During the last ten years, while America was blowing up its financial bubble, China has not only developed the industry, but also equipped its area of interest with military equipment. China has placed 38 new diesel and nuclear submarines in the region, purchased four destroyers of class "Modern" from Russia and built another dozen on its own, and has launched a network of ground-based ballistic missiles to destroy naval targets.

Only one other country has done this before - the Soviet Union during the "Cold War". It is no wonder that the Americans are very concerned with the regular quarrels between China and its major allies. Construction of a naval base on Hainan Island does not add confidence to the U.S. The proximity to the Malacca Strait poses a threat to the smooth supply of Washington's main allies in the region - Japan, South Korea and Taiwan - this is the way the US sees the situation. The American senators have already decided that such behavior is a threat to Beijing's regional peace and stability, economic development and even "food security". The international community is well aware what usually follows such wording.

Ilona Raskolnikova

Pravda.Ru

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/26/inside-china-436801701/?page=all#pagebreak ;


Threat against ‘little countries’
By Miles Yu
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China’s official communist newspaper, the Global Times, published a chilling editorial warning several “little countries” that are disputing China’s maritime claims in the South China Sea, notably the Philippines and Vietnam, to “get ready to hear the sound of gunfire.”


Headlined “China Cannot Resort Only to Negotiations Over Maritime Conflicts, We Must Kill One to Deter One Hundred If Necessary,” the editorial published Tuesday asked, in a tone of condescension, where these “little neighboring countries” got the nerve to challenge China. It called such challenges an “opportunistic strategic offensive launched by little countries against a big country.”


The newspaper further threatened that the game these countries play against China would not be easy to win because “China possesses the force to end such game anytime.”


The report said any fear of a naval war is unnecessary because the Chinese public had been psychologically getting used to such a naval conflagration in recent years.


According to the newspaper, the root cause of China’s trouble with these “little countries” is the United States. “At present various disputants behave with imperial swagger [against China],” the commentary said, “as if with the support from the United States, they all had the force and capabilities to subjugate China.”


The newspaper used the phrase “bodies of waters in East Asia” to include areas other than the South China Sea where China has territorial disputes — a clear reference to South Korea and Japan.


Since April 2010, China began deliberately sending regular fishing fleets accompanied by official government escort ships to disputed areas of the Spratly’s Island, Senkaku islands, the Korean littoral area and other murky waters.


These China fishing and escort ships routinely clash with other nations’ naval patrol ships, including incidents with the Philippine navy, the South Korean navy and the Japanese coastal patrol vessels just within the past week, dramatically escalating tensions with several “little countries.”


Underground Great Wall


The U.S. government this week announced that it had dismantled and destroyed the last and the largest Cold War-era nuclear weapon, the B53 gravity bomb, in Amarillo, Texas.


Meanwhile, China is increasing its stockpile of nuclear weapons under the rubric of a mammoth project called the Underground Great Wall that includes a 3,000-mile-long subterranean tunnel system used to store and operate the many thousands of China’s nuclear-carrying missiles. The system is under the direct supervision of China’s strategic missile forces known as the Second Artillery Corps.


First reported by the Chinese state television in March 2008 and confirmed by the Chinese military a year later, the Underground Great Wall runs several hundred feet below the ground, said James Holmes of the U.S. Naval War College.


Mr. Holmes wrote in the Japanese-based electronic journal the Diplomat in August that “the very scale of the underground network opens up new vistas for Chinese nuclear strategy.”


On Tuesday, the Wall Street Journal quoted former Pentagon nuclear weapons specialist Philip Karber as fundamentally challenging the West’s conventional assumption about the size of China’s nuclear stockpile, officially estimated to include several hundred warheads.


Mr. Karber said gauging the size of China’s nuclear arsenal is difficult, but the Wall Street Journal article urged an immediate reconsideration of the underestimated arsenal because “the alternative is for China, steeped in a 2,500 year military tradition of concealment, deception and surprise, to announce — at a time and in a manner of its choosing — its supremacy in a field that we have foolishly abandoned to our dreams.”

soc.culture.china, soc.culture.indian, soc.culture.malaysia, soc.culture.filipino, soc.culture.vietnamese
Anti-terrorism law proposed


China announced Monday that it would enact a sweeping law to combat what the communist state would define as “terrorists” or “terrorist acts.” These acts include creating public disorder and social panic, causing public property damage and threatening government agencies. The law would target international organizations and all others that abet and finance such “terrorists” and “terrorist acts.”


Human rights activists and thousands of netizens immediately reacted with anger and protest. Li Tiantian, a Shanghai-based human rights lawyer, was quoted by overseas Chinese news media as saying: “This law aims to protect the power structure of the state, to guarantee the security, stability and power of the government. It is the same as calling all actions jeopardizing the regime’s rule terrorism, deserving suppression.”

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2017-08-07 19:28:24 UTC
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PRC is claiming the South China Sea to be "indisputably" its just as it has started to claim the the Senkaku islands to be "indisputably" its and Doklam plateau to be "indisputably" its..

The CCP dictatorship believes its military strength will deter PRC's neighbors from "looking for trouble". They must all submit themselves to kowtowing to the CCP dictatorship in Beijing.

Yale Guen Mar, note that the situation in the South China Sea or in Japan's Senkaku islands in the East China Sea rr in the Doklam plateau up on the Himalayas is somewhat like what you indulge in your own neighborhood. You insist on shitting on the taro patches of your Hmong neighbors under the impression that they are powerless to stop you.

But nonetheless the Hmong neighbors stumble into "looking for trouble" when their dogs occasionally chase you away from their taro patches.
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2017-08-09 13:59:50 UTC
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Yale Guen Mar, why are you always dreaming of wars?

Remember that all wars don't end the way you want them to.

Recall how the PLA had invaded Vietnam in 1979 across the Friendship Pass to teach Vietnam a lesson? It is another matter that by the time PLA was forced to withdraw after 4 weeks, it had lost more than 100,000 soldiers.

Yale Guen Mar, you shouldn't have to post for so little. 50 cents per post shouldn't be enough for what you do. Try to get a better deal from Uncle Chang. That's the only way you can be compensated for what you have to endure - including contempt of patriotic Hmong neighbors on Twilight Avenue.

Yale Guen Mar, you think the the CCP dictatorship in Beijing can get away by bullying the 7 neighbors that you contemptuously dismiss as the "seven dwarfs".

The CCP dictatorship in Beijing is of course angry. The CCP dictatorship wants to enjoy unbridled liberty to bully the "seven dwarfs" anytime and every time it chooses to. It wants to be the sole bully in East Asia. It does not want another bully from the other shore of the Pacific to interfere.

Yale Guen Mar, you have ceased to care about anything else other than earning 50 cents per post. You don't even care to ask your caregiver, Meichi Thai, to to change you into a fresh diaper a lot more often even as you continue to have "accidents" on Ms. Rolida Lee's reclining char and Mr. Ravinder Singh's sofa.

Yale Guen Mar, is earning 50 cents per post with Uncle Chang's lies really that important for you?

Yale Guen Mar, your intelligence is only skin deep. In fact, the only thing deep about you is your hemorrhoid ridden asshole. It is as full of shit as your skull.

For the sake of 50 cents, you are willing to post anything.

Yale Guen Mar, you have been saying, "War waged by China is good, all other wars bad." You could easily been one of the pigs in George Orwell's Animal Farm.

It is not at all surprising that Yale Guen Mar (who posts as Resty Wyse and Rusty Wyseman) is an ardent cheerleader for the imperialist agenda of Chinese Communist Party (CCP) dictatorship in Beijing who would dance in public in the nude if it advances the CCP agenda.

Yale Guen Mar, stupid is that stupid does. And when it it comes to doing stupid, none can match your stupidity.

Yale Guen Mar, you have always been an asshole and you'll never amount to anything more than an asshole always urging PRC to wage war against its neighbors for the sake of getting recommended for 50 cents by your handler from the CCP dictatorship in Beijing.

Yale Guen Mar, recall how PRC ruthlessly occupied the Paracel islands in 1974 from Vietnam?

Yale Guen Mar, recall the massacre of Vietnamese in Spratly islands in 1988?

Yale Guen Mar, surely you know that the CCP dictatorship in Beijing is not averse to killing at will.

But the lust for 50 cents is so strong that you must make posts on behalf of the war lobby.

As the Dr. Strangelove of soc.culture.china, Yale Guen Mar is stinking up the newsgroup with his inane dreams of mayhem and rapes.

Yale Guen Mar must be one desperate Dr. Strangelove to dream of PLA invading Japan. Yale Guen Mar has gone on to describe his evil orgasmic dream quite vividly:

" ... Chinese troops enter Tokyo, be sure to kill and rape at least 300,000. And use Japanese civilians for bayonet practice."

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.japan/msg/46c71cdfd0e4e9c3 ;

The Tojo regime paid the price for its evil acts. The CCP dictatorship in Beijing too will have to pay for its evil acts if it foolishly gets goaded by the likes of Yale Guen Mar (rst0/rst7/rst9) to invade neighbors and commit war crimes in Japan or any where else.

Yale Guen Mar, remember that all wars do not end predictably. You do no good even to the PRC when you advocate her neighbors (whom you have taken to deriding as the "seven dwarfs") to be bullied and bludgeoned to submission by the CCP dictatorship in Beijing.
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2017-08-11 14:49:28 UTC
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Vietnam challenges China at security talks
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Yale Guen Mar, why do you look with contempt toward PRC's neighbors whom you dismiss as the "seven dwarfs"? Why do you want the "seven dwarfs" to kowtow to the CCP dictatorship in Beijing? Why are you always goading PRC to violate the land and maritime boundaries to "punish" neighboring countries?

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/soc.culture.china/uYOvxU7mGYk
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Vietnam wins U.S. defense pledges as tension with China grows - Uncle Sam is taken on something we can not stop. When China is ready, she will take all of the South China Sea. The US cannot stop China.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/vietnam-wins-u-defense-pledges-200838818.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=2_08
Yale Guen Mar, why are you always dreaming of wars?

You are the Dr. Strangelove of soc.culture.china, Yale Guen Mar. You are always trying to goad the PLA into bullying and bludgeoning all the neighboring countries into submission and to kowtow to the CCP dictatorship in Beijing. You are stinking up the newsgroup with your inane dreams of mayhem and rapes.

Yale Guen Mar, you must be one desperate Dr. Strangelove to dream of PLA invading Japan. You have gone on to describe your evil orgasmic dream quite vividly, " ... Chinese troops enter Tokyo, be sure to kill and rape at least 300,000. And use Japanese civilians for bayonet practice."

Yale Guen Mar, do you get paid a bonus in addition to your usual 50 cents when you post such gory thoughts?

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.japan/msg/46c71cdfd0e4e9c3 ;

The Tojo regime had to pay a steep price for its evil acts. The CCP dictatorship in Beijing too will have to pay just as much for its evil acts if it foolishly gets goaded by Yale Guen Mar (rst0/rst7/rst9) and his ilk to invade neighbors and commit war crimes in Japan or any where else.

Yale Guen Mar, remember that all wars do not end predictably. You do no good even to the PRC when you advocate that her neighbors (whom you have taken to deriding as the "seven dwarfs") be bullied and bludgeoned to submission by the CCP dictatorship in Beijing.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/soc.culture.china/qIH51tnXaUQ
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Yeah!!! Isn't that stupid!!!
Yale Guen Mar, stupid is that stupid does. And when it it comes to doing stupid, none can match your stupidity.

Yale Guen Mar, you have always been an asshole and you'll never amount to anything more than an asshole always urging PRC to wage war against its neighbors for the sake of getting recommended for 50 cents by your handler from the CCP dictatorship in Beijing.

Yale Guen Mar, recall how PRC ruthlessly occupied the Paracel islands in 1974 from Vietnam?

Yale Guen Mar, recall the massacre of Vietnamese in Spratly islands in 1988?

Yale Guen Mar, surely you know that the CCP dictatorship in Beijing is not averse to killing at will.

Recall how the PLA had invaded Vietnam in 1979 across the Friendship Pass to teach Vietnam a lesson? It is another matter that by the time PLA was forced to withdraw after 4 weeks, it had lost more than 100,000 soldiers.

Yale Guen Mar, you shouldn't have to post for so little. 50 cents per post shouldn't be enough for what you do. Try to get a better deal from Uncle Chang. That's the only way you can be compensated for what you have to endure - including contempt of patriotic Hmong neighbors on Twilight Avenue.

Yale Guen Mar, you think the the CCP dictatorship in Beijing can get away by bullying the 7 neighbors that you contemptuously dismiss as the "seven dwarfs".

The CCP dictatorship in Beijing is of course angry. The CCP dictatorship wants to enjoy unbridled liberty to bully the "seven dwarfs" anytime and every time it chooses to. It wants to be the sole bully in East Asia. It does not want another bully from the other shore of the Pacific to interfere.

Yale Guen Mar, you have ceased to care about anything else other than earning 50 cents per post. You don't even care to ask your caregiver, Meichi Thai, to to change you into a fresh diaper a lot more often even as you continue to have "accidents" on Ms. Rolida Lee's reclining char and Mr. Ravinder Singh's sofa.

Yale Guen Mar, is earning 50 cents per post with Uncle Chang's lies really that important for you?

Yale Guen Mar, your intelligence is only skin deep. In fact, the only thing deep about you is your hemorrhoid ridden asshole. It is as full of shit as your skull.

For the sake of 50 cents, you are willing to post anything.

Yale Guen Mar, you have been saying, "War waged by China is good, all other wars bad." You could easily been one of the pigs in George Orwell's Animal Farm.

It is not at all surprising that Yale Guen Mar (who posts as Resty Wyse and Rusty Wyseman) is an ardent cheerleader for the imperialist agenda of Chinese Communist Party (CCP) dictatorship in Beijing who would dance in public in the nude if it advances the CCP agenda.

Recall how the PLA had invaded Vietnam in 1979 across the Friendship Pass to teach Vietnam a lesson? It is another matter that by the time PLA was forced to withdraw after 4 weeks, it had lost more than 100,000 soldiers.

Yale Guen Mar, you shouldn't have to post for so little. 50 cents per post shouldn't be enough for what you do. Try to get a better deal from Uncle Chang. That's the only way you can be compensated for what you have to endure - including contempt of patriotic Hmong neighbors on Twilight Avenue.

Yale Guen Mar, you think the the CCP dictatorship in Beijing can get away by bullying the 7 neighbors that you contemptuously dismiss as the "seven dwarfs".

The CCP dictatorship in Beijing is of course angry. The CCP dictatorship wants to enjoy unbridled liberty to bully the "seven dwarfs" anytime and every time it chooses to. It wants to be the sole bully in East Asia. It does not want another bully from the other shore of the Pacific to interfere.

Yale Guen Mar, you have ceased to care about anything else other than earning 50 cents per post. You don't even care to ask your caregiver, Meichi Thai, to to change you into a fresh diaper a lot more often even as you continue to have "accidents" on Ms. Rolida Lee's reclining char and Mr. Ravinder Singh's sofa.

Yale Guen Mar, is earning 50 cents per post with Uncle Chang's lies really that important for you?

Yale Guen Mar, your intelligence is only skin deep. In fact, the only thing deep about you is your hemorrhoid ridden asshole. It is as full of shit as your skull.

For the sake of 50 cents, you are willing to post anything.

Yale Guen Mar, you have been saying, "War waged by China is good, all other wars bad." You could easily been one of the pigs in George Orwell's Animal Farm.

It is not at all surprising that Yale Guen Mar (who posts as Resty Wyse and Rusty Wyseman) is an ardent cheerleader for the imperialist agenda of Chinese Communist Party (CCP) dictatorship in Beijing who would dance in public in the nude if it advances the CCP agenda.
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