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Why has Cantonese fallen out of favour with Guangzhou youngsters? In provincial capital, formerly known as Canton, grandparents and parents find themselves having to communicate with children in Mandarin - Finally after more than 2,000 years...
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Resty Wyse
2018-03-12 16:46:16 UTC
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Why has Cantonese fallen out of favour with Guangzhou youngsters?
In provincial capital, formerly known as Canton, grandparents and parents find themselves having to communicate with children in Mandarin - Finally after more than 2,000 years...

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2136237/why-has-cantonese-fallen-out-favour-guangzhou-youngsters?utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20180312&utm_campaign=scmp_china&aid=190131336&sc_src=email_2178311&sc_llid=6331&sc_lid=149818754&sc_uid=itFXkEM932&utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=email
w***@yahoo.com.sg
2018-03-13 01:53:09 UTC
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Albert Fung is turning in his grave. But I don't think Cantonese will die out. Cantonese speakers number more than 60 million, equivalent to the size of mid-sized countries, such as Britain.

Recently, I met a family from Fujian province. They spoke to me in Mandarin, but they used the Fujian dialect among themselves. This is almost 70 years after the founding of the People's Republic of China.

Wakalukong
Resty Wyse
2018-03-13 02:32:07 UTC
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Albert Fung is turning in his grave. But I don't think Cantonese will die out. Cantonese speakers number more than 60 million, equivalent to the size of mid-sized countries, such as Britain.
Recently, I met a family from Fujian province. They spoke to me in Mandarin, but they used the Fujian dialect among themselves. This is almost 70 years after the founding of the People's Republic of China.
Wakalukong
I visited the village where I was born in 2003.
The younger and middle age generations all speak Mandarin.
Only the old people can't speak Mandarin.
I think within the next few generations, Cantonese will be completely disappeared.

But I gotta admit, they all can speak Cantonese(Taishanese).
s***@gmail.com
2018-03-13 18:10:40 UTC
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Post by Resty Wyse
I visited the village where I was born in 2003.
The younger and middle age generations all speak Mandarin.
Only the old people can't speak Mandarin.
I think within the next few generations, Cantonese will be completely disappeared.
But I gotta admit, they all can speak Cantonese(Taishanese).
Yale Guen Mar (posting under the fake name of Resty Wyse), your tragedy is that you have let your Taishanese turn rusty, if not unusable, while you have failed to master English.

Ravinder Singh's grandson has been very kind to you. He has been trying to teach you English for months, nay, years. You'll lose the free tutoring if you don't behave in the Singh residence.

Always ask Meichi Thai to change you into a clean diaper before you go to the Singh residence to receive tutoring. It hasn't been rigfht for you to go their in over-soiled diapers that leak to leave stinking yellow stain on Ravinder Singh's sofa.

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Satish, Mr. Singh has been living in Toronto, Canada, with his other son
for the last month or so. Your have been proving yourself to be an idiot,
making up lies to post. The three of you, bmoore, Wakalukong, and Satish,
the pep boys of soc.culture.china, The Pep Boys: Manny, Moe & Jack.
Yale Guen Mar, your name is already mud in Merced, especially among your Hmong neighbors. Now it will be mud in not just Toronto but in rest of Canada as well.

I wouldn't be surprised if Mr. Ravinder Singh repeats the stories of your lack of civic sense and of patriotism and of your utter idiocy to acquaintances in Toronto as well. So, now your notoriety will spread to Canada as well.

But, Yale Guen Mar, you have always been totally shameless. So, I am sure you will just shrug your shoulders and continue to be just as shameless.

Your antics were never a laughing matter to Mr. Ravinder Sing. Yale Guen Mar's diaper has leaked again and again during Yale Guen Mar's visit to the Singh residence for crying on Ravinder's shoulders - the leaks always leave stinking stains on Ravinder's sofa.

Yale Guen Mar has been really depressed after his futile appeal to May Fung for a "loan". Yale Guen Mar had been visiting Ravinder Singh's house quite often to cry his heart out - but he always sheds more than just tears. Yale Guen Mar's diaper invariably leaks leaving yellow stains on Ravinder Singh's sofa.

Yale Guen Mar, be considerate. Ask Meichi Thai to change your diaper before you pay a visit to Ravinder's house.
w***@yahoo.com.sg
2018-03-14 01:24:38 UTC
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Cantonese will probably be like Tamil, which has over 70 million speakers, and is one of the oldest languages in the world. It is thriving despite not being India's national language.

Wakalukong
Jesus Christ is a WHITE RACE monopoly Power
2018-03-14 02:11:51 UTC
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Malays , Thai , Vietnamese were all YUE people
of Yue land ( original name of South China )

Taiwan 's natives were originally Malays who still live in MOUNTAINS
of Taiwan ,, THESE REAL NATIVES of Taiwan ..,, NOT Chinese in Taiwan ,
Aborigenes of Taiwan were head hunters who killed many Japs at
the end of the 19th century .


in Taiwan you have Malay descendants ,
in North Vietnam you have Kinh native descendants from GuangXi

in Guang Xi you have Chuang people who are Thai descendants .


all speaking NON CHINESE lingo .



some Malays in Taiwan migrated to NEW ZEALAND 1000 years ago
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Cantonese will probably be like Tamil, which has over 70 million speakers, and is one of the oldest languages in the world. It is thriving despite not being India's national language.
Wakalukong
w***@yahoo.com.sg
2018-03-14 04:20:32 UTC
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Cantonese sounds totally different from Malay. It sounds more like the Fujian dialect (spoken also by Taiwanese). The Cantonese-speaking people are not Yue people, but are the same as the other Chinese people. But because they are in the south, northerners conveniently assume they are Yue.

Wakalukong
Jesus Christ is a WHITE RACE monopoly Power
2018-03-14 05:57:30 UTC
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Cantonesr have some words which are similar to Vietnamese

Malay had nothing to do with Hokien


Malays were separate native of Yue tribe

Malays were not Hokien
Malays were completely different

Malays left the Taiwan and went to
Philippines as Malays natives of
Philippines

Thai were also separate tribe of Yue
Jesus Christ is a WHITE RACE monopoly Power
2018-03-14 06:03:20 UTC
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Cantonese were 100 % Yue tribe

Cantonese words wete related to Vietnamese

Hokien were also 100 % Yue

Malays were Just Malays
and had
nothing to do with Hokien

Thai were just Thai and had
nothing to do with Viets nor Hokien



there are still Thai still
living in Black river in north Vietnam

Thai in north Vietnam worship
Thai kings
w***@yahoo.com.sg
2018-03-15 01:28:23 UTC
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Yes, komin, Malay and Chinese are racially and culturally different.

Wakalukong
Jesus Christ is a WHITE RACE monopoly Power
2018-03-15 02:28:22 UTC
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Malays migrated to north Borneo

Malays migrated back
to Central Vietnam and called
themselves as Chams in Singapura
kingdom in Central Vietnam

Vietnamese destroyed Cham kingdom


Thai struggled for land in north Vietnam before migrating to north
Lao to ask for employment with
Khmer military garrison in Sukothai
which was northern frontier of
Khmer Empire .... ...
Thai people worked for Khmer military
for a few generations before
Thai rebelled against Khmer overlords
in Sukothai and in Loburi which was
a Khmer command centre over all
Mon lands in Suvanapumi ( original name )
of Siam before Siamese Thai defeated
the Khmer military Hindu overlords in
Lopburi and in Sukothai .. ...
that is why now all Thai Royal
Ceremonies and manner and customs
are Khmer style according to the
Original Khmer Royal power from
Angkor Watt


Royal Thai style in Thai Royal palaces are a copy of
Khmer Royal style before the collapse of thec Khmer Empire
Jesus Christ is a WHITE RACE monopoly Power
2018-03-15 07:25:49 UTC
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Central Thailand was originally
known
as Haripunchai which
was a Mon kingdom
and Chao Prya river at Bangkok was
a Mon river controlled by Mon
before
the Thai arrived in Lopburi ( original name Lovek ) from Lao

Thai were the last migrants and late
migrants into Suvanapumi which is
the flat land rice growing area
surrounding Lake Tonle Sap ..... ....

so Thai only came into Haripunchai
and into Suvanapumi in the 12 century
very late into Mon territory which
was already occupied by Khmer forces


Thai were the last migrants into Thailand which was a Mon territory
with Khmer Hindu military in peaceful
co habitations ...
but Thai grew larger in population
and Thai rebelled against Khmer
commanders because of a change of
power in Angkor with new Khmer King



Khmer princess in Lopburi refused
to obey orders from new Khmer king
in Angkor ...
8and Khmer princess
decided to marry Thai military assistants or deputy commanders to defend themselves from fresh
Khmer troops from Angkor...

so a new power was born in Lopburi which changed to Ayuthya city state
with a very mixed ethnicity population consisted of Khmer nobilities Thai deputies Lao migrants and Burmese Mon nobles ... all mixed up



Siamese people were a mixed race
people of Khmer Thai Lao Mon

Lao was from Lanna kingdom .. north of
Sukothai

Jesus Christ is a WHITE RACE monopoly Power
2018-03-14 01:10:29 UTC
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Cantonese is a very rough language

Cantonese is a Yue language of 100 Yue tribes of
Yue ( original name of South China )

During Mongol time north Chinese
were still calling all Yue people
in YUE (south china ) as Mangi

Mongol placed Mangi Yue people one
class above Chinese because
Yue people were non Chinese
but
natives of Yue land ... just like
real Prussians native of Prussia by
Baltique sea ....not German .


FuJiang ( Hokien ) were Yue people ....

Hakka in south China were real Chinese
from outside Chang An palace 1600 years ago

Hakka migrated south to west Fujian
1600 years ago when Nomads Huns and
Xienbei tribes from Mongolia sacked
Chang An of Jeen Dynasty which escaped
Nomads
by moving south to Nanjing which
was the capital of East Wu (DongWu)
Kingdom during North South period ..

Mangi were given their native lands back by Mongols who chased and kilked Chinese in South China Yue
and Mangi gave refuge to Mongols during Chinese rebels against Mongol
occupiers in Ming
s***@gmail.com
2018-03-14 17:43:21 UTC
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Post by Resty Wyse
Why has Cantonese fallen out of favour with Guangzhou youngsters?
In provincial capital, formerly known as Canton, grandparents and parents find themselves having to communicate with children in Mandarin - Finally after more than 2,000 years...
Yale Guen Mar, your tragedy is that you have forgotten the Taishanese you learnt in your childhood from your mother while you have failed to master English.

Ravinder Singh's grandson has been very kind to you. He has been trying to teach you English for months, nay, years. You'll lose the free tutoring if you don't behave in the Singh residence.

Always ask Meichi Thai to change you into a clean diaper before you go to the Singh residence to receive tutoring. It hasn't been rigfht for you to go their in over-soiled diapers that leak to leave stinking yellow stain on Ravinder Singh's sofa.


https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/soc.culture.china/HW1vP8Cd2x8
Post by Resty Wyse
Satish, Mr. Singh has been living in Toronto, Canada, with his other son
for the last month or so. Your have been proving yourself to be an idiot,
making up lies to post. The three of you, bmoore, Wakalukong, and Satish,
the pep boys of soc.culture.china, The Pep Boys: Manny, Moe & Jack.
Yale Guen Mar, your name is already mud in Merced, especially among your Hmong neighbors. Now it will be mud in not just Toronto but in rest of Canada as well.

I wouldn't be surprised if Mr. Ravinder Singh repeats the stories of your lack of civic sense and of patriotism and of your utter idiocy to acquaintances in Toronto as well. So, now your notoriety will spread to Canada as well.

But, Yale Guen Mar, you have always been totally shameless. So, I am sure you will just shrug your shoulders and continue to be just as shameless.

Your antics were never a laughing matter to Mr. Ravinder Sing. Yale Guen Mar's diaper has leaked again and again during Yale Guen Mar's visit to the Singh residence for crying on Ravinder's shoulders - the leaks always leave stinking stains on Ravinder's sofa.

Yale Guen Mar has been really depressed after his futile appeal to May Fung for a "loan". Yale Guen Mar had been visiting Ravinder Singh's house quite often to cry his heart out - but he always sheds more than just tears. Yale Guen Mar's diaper invariably leaks leaving yellow stains on Ravinder Singh's sofa.

Yale Guen Mar, be considerate. Ask Meichi Thai to change your diaper before you pay a visit to Ravinder's house.
Post by Resty Wyse
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2136237/why-has-cantonese-fallen-out-favour-guangzhou-youngsters?utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20180312&utm_campaign=scmp_china&aid=190131336&sc_src=email_2178311&sc_llid=6331&sc_lid=149818754&sc_uid=itFXkEM932&utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=email
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