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Yale Guen Mar, don't forget the Double Nine Festival on October 28. And then celebrate Tony Chee Mar's birth anniversary on November 5. Eugene might yet accept you as a friend on Facebook,
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2017-10-01 20:48:32 UTC
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Yale Guen Mar, don't forget the Double Nine Festival on October 28. That's the seniors' Day. You have eaned the right to celebrate it by living to be 79.

You can get double the joy at the Double Nine Festival by remembering and honoring your "dad" Tony Chee Mar, your mother Kim Hi Wong and all your other ancestors. Show them respect.

Eat Chongyang cakes and drink chrysanthemum wine.

Best of all, go to Tucson, AZ and visit Lot 49 at East Palm Cemetery. Tend to the tombs of your parents Kim Hi Wong and Tony Chee Mar. Clean the gravesite and the tombstone.

Try to bond with your siblings Ellen, Donald and Eugene by exhibiting filial piety.

Eugene might yet forgive you and accept you as a friend on Facebook.

And then stay back till November 5 when Tony Chee Mar would have been 102.

That would be an ideal time for you to offer Mai Tai and the finest Taishanese cuisine to the ghosts of your parents Kim Hi Wong and Tony Chee Mar and all your other ancestors. Burn incense and paper money.

Yale Guen Mar, this is your opportunity to bond with your siblings Ellen, Donald and Eugene. If you play your cards right, the might finally forgive you and Eugene might accept you as a friend on Facebook.
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2017-10-02 06:56:04 UTC
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"...don't ever forget what you owe to your Chinese parents. "
I cussed them out for bringing me into this terrible world.
I cussed them out for being lousy parents.
I cussed them out for being ignorant parents.
I cussed them out for being typical Chinese parents.
I cussed them out for being uneducated parents.
I cussed them out for following Manchu cultured parents....
Yale Guen Mar, your cussing didn't make your parents small any more than it made you great.

Yale Guen Mar, always remember what you owe to your Chinese parents.

Yale Guen Mar, never blame your mother, Kim Hi Wong, and your father, Tony Chee Mar, for all your woes. Act like a grown up. For heaven's sake, you'll be 79 in less than 3 weeks. Act your age. You should make an honest attempt to own up to your deep character flaws before you croak.

Yale Guen Mar, aren't you the black sheep in the family?. KIm Hi Wong always worried about you. That is why she spanked you all the time to keep you in the straight and narrow. No wonder your buttocks were sore all the time when you were growing up.

But Kim Hi Wong's efforts to redeem you never succeeded . She could drag a mule like you to the well, but she couldn't make you drink from the well.

Yale Guen Mar, you will be 79 on February 1. Do you remember how you muddied the San Francisco Bay in 1949 as soon as you got off the boat from Hong Kong?

Yale Guen Mar, try to make a new beginning. Try hard to get over your grudge against your "dad" Tony Chee Mar.

Yale Guen Mar, you owe Tony Chee Mar everything. Recall that you met Tony Chee Mar for the first time as a 11 year old "Fresh of the Boat" in San Francisco - you had just arrived from Hong Kong in 1949 after the communists took over the country you were born in. Out of the kindness of his heart, Tony Chee Mar (a US citizen) declared that you were his son so that you could be in USA.

Recall what he told you when you arrived in San Francisco. Tony Chee Mar told you, "Yale, you are a turkey".

Tony Chee Mar then added, "This is Thanksgiving. We are going to have turkey."

Wonder-struck, you had said, "Dad, what is Thanksgiving, what is turkey?"

Tony Chee Mar did punish you often, but that was only because he had to and not because it gave him any pleasure. Yale Guen Mar, you were always a pain in the ass. But Tony Chee Mar hoped his (and Kim Hi Wong's) punishments will help you become a better person.

Unfortunately, that was not to be. You were simply incorrigible. You just couldn't stay out of mischief. This, together with the obsession you had developed as a child in rural China for finger-fucking pigs in their assholes, made it inevitable that you would never be more than the miserable self you are right now.
I cussed them out for being lousy parents.
Your mommy, Kim Hi Wong, and your dad, Tony Chee Mar, were good parents and noble souls. Your accomplished siblings Donald Yale Mar, Ellen Heath and Eugene Yale Mar have never failed to acknowledge the contribution of their parents Kim Hi Wong and Tony Chee Mar to their own successes.

Yale Guen Mar, don't be an ingrate. Your plight is your own doing. Tony Chee Mar always did his best to bring you up the right way. It is the height of ingratitude to badmouth Tony Chee Mar for your own failings.
I cussed them out for being ignorant parents.
The only think they were ignorant of was that they were fighting a losing cause in trying to get an incorrigible rascal like you to grow up into decent human being like their other children Donald, Ellen and Eugene. But one can drag a mule to the well, but it cannot be made to drink from the well unless it wants to.
I cussed them out for being typical Chinese parents.
What's wrong with being typical Chinese parents?

Donald, Ellen and Eugene grew up to be accomplished, honest upright citizens
So did Homer, Gini, Lawrence, Homer and Clarence.

You are the only black sheep in the family.

There was nothing wrong in the way Kim Hi Wong and Tony Chee Mar brought up their kids. It wasn't their fault that they had a kid like you.
I cussed them out for being uneducated parents.
Tony Chee Mar brought you up in his home in 914 10th Street in Phoenix, AZ. He let you work in his cafe. He taught you English and mathematics. He taught you the difference between a rational number and an irrational number.

If you failed to get an education, it was your fault, not theirs. Your siblings didn't fail them. Donald, Ellen and Eugene are as honest and upright as they are accomplished.
I cussed them out for following Manchu cultured parents....
Better to have cultured parents than uncultured parents.

And anyway, you shouldn't grudge the fact that Tony Chee Mar cut off your pigtail the moment you landed in San Francisco on the Thanksgiving day of 1949.

Nor should you grudge Tony Chee Mar for refusing to shave a straight line along your head.

Tony Chee Mar was a thoughtful father. He didn't want you to be ridiculed and heckled by your school mates in the new country.

That is why he chopped off your pigtail as soon as you got off the boat in San Francisco. And that is why he shaved off all your hair so that you could grow a normal crew cut and meld with your classmates.
Yale Guen Mar, don't forget the Double Nine Festival on October 28. That's the seniors' Day. You have eaned the right to celebrate it by living to be 79.
You can get double the joy at the Double Nine Festival by remembering and honoring your "dad" Tony Chee Mar, your mother Kim Hi Wong and all your other ancestors. Show them respect.
Eat Chongyang cakes and drink chrysanthemum wine.
Best of all, go to Tucson, AZ and visit Lot 49 at East Palm Cemetery. Tend to the tombs of your parents Kim Hi Wong and Tony Chee Mar. Clean the gravesite and the tombstone.
Try to bond with your siblings Ellen, Donald and Eugene by exhibiting filial piety.
Eugene might yet forgive you and accept you as a friend on Facebook.
And then stay back till November 5 when Tony Chee Mar would have been 102.
That would be an ideal time for you to offer Mai Tai and the finest Taishanese cuisine to the ghosts of your parents Kim Hi Wong and Tony Chee Mar and all your other ancestors. Burn incense and paper money.
Yale Guen Mar, this is your opportunity to bond with your siblings Ellen, Donald and Eugene. If you play your cards right, the might finally forgive you and Eugene might accept you as a friend on Facebook.
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2017-10-02 15:39:04 UTC
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Good riddence. I didn't even go to my mother's funeral.
Other members of the family never even visit the gravesite.
What did your mother do to you when you were 11 or 12 years old?
NOT when I was 11, more like from the time I was born to age 11.
No one wanted Yale Guen Mar at the funerals of his uncle and aunt Ben Shee Mar and Susan Suey Oy Wong and even at the funerals of his parents Tony Chee Mar and Kim Hi Wong.
I bet
you must really hate her.
I didn't hate her. She had controlled of me when I was in China.
In the U.S. she didn't have controlled. I thrived in the U.S. while I was a failure in China because of her.
Tony Chee Mar and Kim Hi Wong were great parents. They tried their best to bring up Yale Guen Mar. But Yale Guen Mar was in corrigible. He was a failure in life not because his parents beat him, but because they didn't beat him enough.
Your heart is filled with vengeance toward
your parents. What did they do to you when you were that young?
I didn't hate them. I supported them when the cafe failed.
Rubbish. Tony Chee Mar and Kim Hi wong let Yale Guen Mar have a room in their house at 914 10th Street in Phoenix long after he was past his teens. It was Yale Guen Mar's siblings Donald Yale Mar and Eugene Yale Mar who put a stop to his mooching.
My grandmother was the same way.
She must have had beaten the twins into mice.
Both my father and uncle were worthless.
Yale Guen Mar is Ben Shee Mar's nephew. Uncle Ben (Yale Guen Mar's father's twin brother) was a very generous uncle. Uncle Ben had wanted to send Yale Guen Mar to Kansas State University in Manhattan. Yale Guen Mar was, then, working for Uncle Ben as a janitor in Junction City Cafe.

Yale Guen Mar's stint as a janitor at Junction City Cafe in Kansas came to an end when Ben Shee Mar found out what the lad had been up to. Yale Guen Mar was beaten to pulp, fired from the job and sent back to Arizona.

Ben Shee Mar was twin brother of Tony Chee Mar. They were born on November 5, 1915.

Ben Shee Mar married Susan Suey Oy Wong while Tony Chee Mar married Kim Hi Wong.

Uncle Ben died of throat cancer on July 12, 1986. Aunt Susan died on September, 2004.

They are buried side-by-side in Duncanville, Texas.

Uncle Ben was a good father who gave all his children a college education at Kansas State University.

Uncle Ben was willing to send Tony's son Yale Guen Mar to college as well. But Yale Guen Mar's behavior turned Uncle Ben off. He beat the crap out of Yale Guen Mar and sent him back to Arizona.

Uncle Ben's son (just three years older than Yale Guen Mar) went on to become a colonel in the US Army. Yale Guen Mar, in stark contrast, got a dishonorable discharge from the US Army as a private.

Yale Guen Mar's cousin Colonel Mar still remembers Yale Guen Mar's shenanigans that summer in Kansas.

Yale Guen Mar was a janitor at the Junction City Cafe that summer but he would often play hooky to visit a local pig sty to indulge himself.

Yale Guen Mar's uncle (Ben Shee Mar) was exasperated not to find Yale Guen Mar when needed. One day he found him at the pig sty. The piggery's manager told Yale Guen Mar's uncle that the boy had been spending hours at the pig sty intently watching the pigs defecate and urinate. He had come to know that when Yale Guen Mar thought that no one was watching, he would finger-fuck the pigs in their assholes.

Uncle Ben (Ben Shee Mar) was simply appalled. He wanted to put a stop to his nephews perverted ways.

That day the uncle beat Yale Guen Mar to pulp.

The beating made no difference. So the uncle finally fired Yale Guen Mar from his job at the Junction City Cafe and sent him back to Arizona.

Yale Guen Mar went on to finger-fuck many more pigs in their assholes.

But it was a big jolt for Yale Guen Mar lin 2013 when at the age of 75, he found his middle fingers so badly infected with STDs that his doctor in Merced has been advising him to have them amputated.

The STDs have begun to seep from Yale Guen Mar's middle fingers to his brain. And that explains Yale Guen Mar's maniacally obsessive and erratic behavior.

Yale Guen Mar should have his middle fingers immediately amputated. Or else, he should rush to his doctor in Cambodia to see if the middle fingers can be saved by alternate medical treatment.
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Yale Guen Mar, 914 10th Street in Phoenix should have been like your home. Instead you chose to make it a storage place for your contrabands.


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I am very much interested in hearing from Chinese-Americans within the
United States on how their aged parents/grandparents were faring in
their sunset years. It was ironic for me growing up in a small town,
living in California most of my adult life about a thousand miles from
"home". As each of us gets older and educated, we leave "home" only to
come "home" for visit once or twice a year. My sibblings live in
Tucson about 125 miles away leaving my parents alone at "home". To me,
"home" was, is and will always be 914 10th St. and I never take any of
my things from "home" to California.
Then my father got sick and checked into the hospital. My brother in
Tucson returned "home" and talked to the doctor, who said my father may
be in hospital for about a week. Since my mother can not speak English
and alone at home, he decided to transfer my father to Tucson Medical
Center where he works and move my mother to a retirement home in
Tucson. The house was sold. "Home" is no more. All my college year
photos were gone, my short-wave radio, my gun collection, everything in
my bedroom, including the photos of my favorite pigs, were thrown away
or given away without telling me.
My father recovered and moved into the retirement home with my mother,
each taken up a room with a cost of $1,200/month each for a total of
$2,400. With no outside activities and eat and sleep, my father died
in 15 months later. My mother died two years later after my father. I
believe my mother died of loneliness and neglect. I have 3 sibblings
living in Tucson, not one would visit and talk to my mother often
enough to care.
Yale Guen Mar, can't you ever get over the loss of your gun collection, photos of your favorite pigs and your short-wave radio? Donald and Eugene were only trying to protect you from yourself.

Yale Guen Mar, you are being grossly unfair to your brothers Eugene Yale Mar and Donald Yale Mar and your sister Ellen Heath. They were achievers. The only reason they got rid of your gun collection, short-wave radio and the photos of your favorite pigs was to save you from yourself.

Quit holding grudges against Ellen, Donald and Eugene, Get their help to cope with your problems.

Funeral rites for an elderly person follow the prescribed form and convey relevant respect: rites befitting the person's status, age etc. are performed even if this means the family of the deceased must go into debt to pay for them.

Ben Shee Mar and Susan Suye Oy Wong were fortunate to be honored at their burial by their children and grandchildren. They lie buried side by side in Duncanville, Texas.

Nephew Yale Guen Mar was not welcome at the funerals by the Mar clan, and for understandable reasons.

But then Yale Guen Mar wasn't welcome at the funerals of his parents Tony Chee Mar and Kim Hi Wong either. No one wanted him at the funerals.

At Qingming Festival every year, Homer Yale Mar and his siblings pay respect to their parents Ben Shee Mar and Susan Suey Oy Wong, and all relatives and ancestors who have passed away. They spend time tidying up the graves and tombstones of Ben Shee Mar and Susan Suey Oy Wong. They offer food, flowers and paper money to their ancestors.

In stark contrast, Yale Guen Mar spends time sulking about times when he got thrashed by his father Tony Chee Mar and mother Kim Hi Wong for misbehavior.

Tony Chee Mar and Ben Shee Mar were twins.

Tony Chee Mar married Kim Hi Wong. They had lasting regrets about son Yale Guen Mar who gave them only grief.

Tony Chee Mar (1915-1999) was born in 1915, to Hall T. Mar(Chan) and Choi Kang Ma.

Tony married Kim Hi Wong. They had 4 children: Ellen Heath, Eugene Yale Mar, Yale Guen Mar and Donald Yale Mar.

Tony passed away in 1999, at age 84 in Arizona.

Yale Guen Mar was not allowed at the funeral because no one wanted him there.

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Yale Guen Mar, you are an ingrate, You bite the hand of parents that feeds
you. Without them feeding you, how can you grow up without them? You eat
rice or pasta, and yet you don't know their price. It shows that you are an
ignorant fool. It shows that you are an ingrate. You have character flaws.
Perhaps you should stop blaming your dead parents, and repent your life,
Just stop blaming your mother, Kim Hi Wong, and your father, Tony Chee Mar,
for all your rants. You are now 77. Own up to your character flaws before
you faked away.
Tony Chee Mar and Kim Hi Wong were good parents. They did everything possible for Yale Guen Mar. Unfortunately, Yale Guen Mar was a very bad son. He continued to wallow in selfishness and utter stupidity.

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All my relatives/ancestry before my generation were losers.
So don't ever talk about them to me. I have nothing but
contempt for them. And it includes all the cousins I have.
Yale Guen Mar, you used to lie to your parents, uncle and aunt. And now you lie on the newsgroup. Yale Guen Mar, you are all sleaze with not an iota of any redeeming feature.

Yale Guen Mar was a bad son from day one. He was not welcome at the funerals of his uncle and aunt abd even at the funerals of his own parents.

To put Yale Guen Mar's villainy in perspective, no one in the Mar clan wanted Yale Guen Mar to attend the funerals of Yale Guen Mar's Uncle (his father's twin brother) some 30 years ago. The pattern was repeated at the funeral of Yale Guen Mar's aunt about half-a-dozen years ago. No one in the Mar clan could stand the thought of Yale Guen Mar being at the funeral. So, cousin Homer Yale Mar very plainly told Yale Guen Mar that he was not welcome.

Yale Guen Ma was a bad son right from his birth !!

A bad mother is a rarity. A bad son a far more common occurrence. Yale Guen Mar is of course trying to shift the blame on his mother. But it is obvious that it is Yale Guen Mar who was always at fault.


Yale Guen Mar never supported his parents financially or otherwise.. It was the parents who indulged Yale Guen Mar when they allowed him to retain his room in their house long after he was no longer a minor.

Yale Guen Mar lost his room only when his 3 siblings Ellen, Donald and Eugene put an end to the indulgence. They got rid of everything that Yale Guen Mar had stored in t hat room, including his collection of his semen-stained photos of his favorite pigs.

No one in the Mar family (including the 3 siblings) wants to remember Yale Guen Mar, and understandably so. Yale Guen Mar was specifically told by family members that he was not welcome at the funeral of his own parents, let alone at the funerals of cousin Yue Chung Mar's parents.

Yale Guen Mar is hated by everyone in the Mar clan and rightly so.
Yale Guen Mar, don't forget the Double Nine Festival on October 28. That's the seniors' Day. You have eaned the right to celebrate it by living to be 79.
You can get double the joy at the Double Nine Festival by remembering and honoring your "dad" Tony Chee Mar, your mother Kim Hi Wong and all your other ancestors. Show them respect.
Eat Chongyang cakes and drink chrysanthemum wine.
Best of all, go to Tucson, AZ and visit Lot 49 at East Palm Cemetery. Tend to the tombs of your parents Kim Hi Wong and Tony Chee Mar. Clean the gravesite and the tombstone.
Try to bond with your siblings Ellen, Donald and Eugene by exhibiting filial piety.
Eugene might yet forgive you and accept you as a friend on Facebook.
And then stay back till November 5 when Tony Chee Mar would have been 102.
That would be an ideal time for you to offer Mai Tai and the finest Taishanese cuisine to the ghosts of your parents Kim Hi Wong and Tony Chee Mar and all your other ancestors. Burn incense and paper money.
Yale Guen Mar, this is your opportunity to bond with your siblings Ellen, Donald and Eugene. If you play your cards right, the might finally forgive you and Eugene might accept you as a friend on Facebook.
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Yale Guen Mar, were you ever fair to your parents?

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My brother has multi-millions.
They could live very well in China.
After living in the U.S. for 50 years,
who can get use to living in the village,
with no running water, no running hot water,
no indoor bathroom, no natural gas for cooking,...
For the last 3 years of their lives,
they were living in a retirement facility
where everything was done for them for $3,000/month.
The retirement home was the reason they died,
no physical activities.
I went back to our house in 2006 and talked to
our neighbors. They all agreed that if my
parents had gone back to the house to live,
they would still be alive doing things around the house,
doing physical activities to keep their bodies in use.
Yale Guen Mar, I recall your post wailing about how your siblings sold your boyhood home and got rid of not just everything (including photos of your favorite pigs) in your room, but they got rid of your aged parents as well.

After that alleged treachery by your siblings Ellen, Donald and Eugene, did you ever manage to recover the album of your favorite pigs? and your gun collection?

Most importantly, did you ever visit your parents?

Isn't it a fact that you were not welcome to visit your parents by your siblings Ellen, Donald and Eugene because they wanted to protect your parents from you?
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Yale Guen Mar, never forget that Tony Chee Mar brought you up in his home in 914 10th Street in Phoenix, AZ. He let you work in his cafe. He taught you English and mathematics. He taught you the difference between a rational number and an irrational number.

If you failed to get an education, it was your fault, not theirs. Your siblings Ellen, Donald and Eugene didn't fail them. Donald, Ellen and Eugene are as honest and upright as they are accomplished.

Yale Gien Mar, you shouldn't grudge the fact that Tony Chee Mar cut off your pigtail the moment you landed in San Francisco on the Thanksgiving day of 1949.

Nor should you grudge Tony Chee Mar for refusing to shave a straight line along your head.

Tony Chee Mar was a thoughtful father. He didn't want you to be ridiculed and heckled by your school mates in the new country.

That is why he chopped off your pigtail as soon as you got off the boat in San Francisco. And that is why he shaved off all your hair so that you could grow a normal crew cut and meld with your classmates.

Yale Guen Mar, never blame your mother, Kim Hi Wong, and your father, Tony Chee Mar, for all your woes. Act like a grown up. For heaven's sake, you'll be 79 in less than 3 weeks. Act your age. You should make an honest attempt to own up to your deep character flaws before you croak.

Yale Guen Mar, aren't you the black sheep in the family?. KIm Hi Wong always worried about you. That is why she spanked you all the time to keep you in the straight and narrow. No wonder your buttocks were sore all the time when you were growing up.

But Kim Hi Wong's efforts to redeem you never succeeded . She could drag a mule like you to the well, but she couldn't make you drink from the well.

Yale Guen Mar, you will be 79 on February 1. Do you remember how you muddied the San Francisco Bay in 1949 as soon as you got off the boat from Hong Kong?

Yale Guen Mar, try to make a new beginning. Try hard to get over your grudge against your "dad" Tony Chee Mar.

Yale Guen Mar, you owe Tony Chee Mar everything. Recall that you met Tony Chee Mar for the first time as a 11 year old "Fresh of the Boat" in San Francisco - you had just arrived from Hong Kong in 1949 after the communists took over the country you were born in. Out of the kindness of his heart, Tony Chee Mar (a US citizen) declared that you were his son so that you could be in USA.

Recall what he told you when you arrived in San Francisco. Tony Chee Mar told you, "Yale, you are a turkey".

Tony Chee Mar then added, "This is Thanksgiving. We are going to have turkey."

Wonder-struck, you had said, "Dad, what is Thanksgiving, what is turkey?"

Tony Chee Mar did punish you often, but that was only because he had to and not because it gave him any pleasure. Yale Guen Mar, you were always a pain in the ass. But Tony Chee Mar hoped his (and Kim Hi Wong's) punishments will help you become a better person.

Unfortunately, that was not to be. You were simply incorrigible. You just couldn't stay out of mischief. This, together with the obsession you had developed as a child in rural China for finger-fucking pigs in their assholes, made it inevitable that you would never be more than the miserable self you are right now.

Your mommy, Kim Hi Wong, and your dad, Tony Chee Mar, were good parents and noble souls. Your accomplished siblings Donald Yale Mar, Ellen Heath and Eugene Yale Mar have never failed to acknowledge the contribution of their parents Kim Hi Wong and Tony Chee Mar to their own successes.

Yale Guen Mar, don't be an ingrate. Your plight is your own doing. Tony Chee Mar always did his best to bring you up the right way. It is the height of ingratitude to badmouth Tony Chee Mar for your own failings.

The only thing Kim Hi Wong and Tony Chee Mar were ignorant of was that they were fighting a losing cause in trying to get an incorrigible rascal like you to grow up into decent human being like their other children Donald, Ellen and Eugene. One can drag a mule to the well, but it cannot be made to drink from the well unless it wants to.
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On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 at 6:45:07 PM UTC-7, Resty Wyse wrote:

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Today, we can talk about parenting classes.
Backing in the days of the Qing Dynasty (Lets say before the 1940s), many children were never allowed to go to school, or choose NOT to go to school in China like my parents and grandparents, parenting classes were meaningless. Beating and abuse of the their children were the norms of the day. That was the way they grew up. That was the way they treat their children.
As I have pointed out, second generation Chinese-American law professor Army Chua wrote about in her book "Tiger Mom", and she thinks and believes that's the way it should be.
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Yale Guen Mar, your parents wanted you to grow up. If they beat you and punished you, it was only because you wouldn't learn. You were a very bad son.
Yale Guen Mar, your tragedy is that while you no longer remember the Taishanese that your mother had taught you
My mother didn't teach, stupid asshole.
She only knew how to beat and punish.
Are you saying that you never learnt to speak properly in Taishanese because your mother beat you and punished you?

You have it backward man.

She punished you and beat you because you wouldn't learn.
when you were a little boy in mainland China,
you have failed to learn learn English even
after 65 years in the USA.
Yale Guen Mar, Mr. Ravinder Singh's grandkid is
taking a lot of trouble to teach you English.
You wouldn't understand a word he said, stupid asshole.
A bad workman always quarrels with his tools.

Your comprehension skills have always been poor. Your neural network just doesn't work thee way it is supposed to.
The whole family is hard to understand.
Not surprised that you feel inadequate in comparison to the entire household of Mr. Ravinder Singh.

Have you been leaving yellow stains on Ravinder's sofa out of spite.? I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt to say that you were having accidents made worse because you were not getting your diaper changed often enough.
And I know you speak just like them, incomprehensible English.
Have you been eavesdropping ? Or are you just automatically assuming that that since your comprehension skills are so very poor, you wouldn't understand me even if you heard me ?
That is the Indian way, incomprehensible English.
You can learn a lot from Mr. Ravinder Singh's grandkid. It was very generous of him to offer to teacjh you English. Try to make the best of your opportunity.

But decency dictates that before going for your lessons, you ask Meichi Thai to change you into a clean diaper. It has been very inconsiderate of you to leave yellow stains on Ravinder's sofa every time you have visited him.
Many IIT graduated Indians speak incomprehensible English.
Have you ever talked to an IIT graduate? Was that as in your capacity as their waiter at a restaurant? Or was that in your capacity as a janitor in some office facility ?
Was that the reason you got fired from your H1-B job, Satish?
Tell us about the time you got fired by George Gee for pilfering restaurant supplies. Be truthful. Don't make up stories about how George Gee had wanted you to marry his daughter. No father in good conscience can possibly wish for a stupid dishonest man like as his son-in-law.

Gene didn't buy your story when you tried to get back your job at the restuarant after George's death. Neither shall the netizens on this newsgroup.
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Yale Guen Mar, when it comes to belittling others, you spare none. You chose to ridicule even your venerable cousin, Colonel Homer Yale Mar.

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Bullshit, Satish Kumar Madhavan. You don't even have the brain to guess.
I have no cousin at 75 years old. The one I used to fight like cat and dog is 3 years older than me, and he spent his whole life in the U.S. Army, retired as a colonel in the U.S. Army and living in Texas.
His mother used to say her son has an "easy life". The Chinese way of saying "easy life" is "walk walk eat". He just walks around, and he has money to spend, food to eat" = "walk walk eat".
You couldn't possibly "talk to them" as my uncle died of throat cancer in the 1980s, and my aunt died in 2000.
Yale Guen Mar, stop speaking ill of your accomplished cousin Homer Yale Mar. You are not even fit to lick the boots of cousin Homer who was an achiever.

You are the one who has been a lifetime into "walk walk eat". Cousin Homer Yale Mar was an achiever. He retired as a colonel in the US Army. You, Yale Guen Mar, on the other hand got a dishonorable discharge as a private. If you were not slapped with a loss of rank, it was only because you were already at the lowest rung in the army.

Uncle Ben Shee Mar and aunt Susan Suey Oy Wong were proud of their son, Homer.

You on the other hand were alwaysa deep disappointment for your parents Tony Chee Mar and Kim Hi Wong.

Yale Guen Mar, you revere Homer as a historian.

Which Homer is that?

(1) The author of Iliad and Odyssey?

(2) Title character in TV show - The Simpsons ?

(3) Isn't it really your cousin Homer Yale Mar?

Homer is indeed an accomplished person who retired a a colonel in the US Army. But I don't think he has ever claimed to be a historian.

Yale Guen Mar, you always had a love-hate relationship with cousin Homer. You used to needlessly pick fights with Homer. You fought like cats and dogs.

Cousin Homer was 3 years older. So, it isn't surprising that you always came out crying after the thrashing you received at Homer's hand. Yo used to run crying not just your mama, Kim Hi Wong, but even to your aunt Susan Suey Oy Wong.

But now you regret hating cousin Homer so much. Is that why you have taken to revering him as historian?

Yale Guen Mar, travel to Duncanville, Texas to meet your cousin and ask him for forgiveness before you croak. You'll have a better afterlife.

Yes, I know, you are in the no-fly list of airlines since 2010. But you can take the Greyhound or the Amtrak. Get going. At your age, there is no time to lose.


Tony Chee Mar and Ben Shee Mar were twins.

Tony Chee Mar married Kim Hi Wong. They had lasting regrets about son Yale Guen Mar who gave them only grief.

Tony Chee Mar (1915-1999) was born in 1915, to Hall T. Mar(actually, the twins were sired by Chan in Singapore) and Choi Kang Ma.

Tony married Kim Hi Wong. They had 5 children: Eugene Yale Mar, Yale Guen Mar, Donald Yale Mar and 2 other children.

Tony passed away in 1999, at age 84 in Arizona.

Yale Guen Mar was not allowed at the funeral because no one wanted him there.

Funeral rites for an elderly person follow the prescribed form and convey relevant respect: rites befitting the person's status, age etc. are performed even if this means the family of the deceased must go into debt to pay for them.

Ben Shee Mar and Susan Suye Oy Wong were fortunate to be honored at their burial by their children and grandchildren. They lie buried side by side in Duncanville, Texas.

Nephew Yale Guen Mar was not welcome at the funerals by the Mar clan, and for understandable reasons.

But then Yale Guen Mar wasn't welcome at the funerals of his parents Tony Chee Mar and Kim Hi Wong either. No one wanted him at the funerals.

At Qingming Festival every year, Homer Yale Mar and his siblings pay respect to their parents Ben Shee Mar and Susan Suey Oy Wong, and all relatives and ancestors who have passed away. They spend time tidying up the graves and tombstones of Ben Shee Mar and Susan Suey Oy Wong. They offer food, flowers and paper money to their ancestors.


In stark contrast, Yale Guen Mar spends time sulking about times when he got spanked by his father Tony Chee Mar and mother Kim Hi Wong for misbehavior.
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Yale Guen Mar, are you getting ready to honor yourself as a senior citizen by celebrating the Double Bine Festival on Octover 28?

Yale Guen Mar (you post as Resty Wyse and Rusty Wyseman on the newsgroup) , don't forget to honor your dad and well-wisher Tony Chee Mar on November 5. He would have been 102 - he was born on November 5, 1915 - if he were still alive.

Tony Chee Mar's other descendants will remember and honor him as usual on the anniversary.

Eugene, Ellen and Donald will throw a joint party in Tucson, AZ for ghosts of Kim Hi Wong and Tony Chee Mar as they have being doing every year.

Brenton, Luca and Valentina will do the same in Boston.

The Boston chapter of the family will be joined by May Fung from Quincy and Dr. Roberto Buonamici from Tuscany.

Yale Guen Mar, try do something nice for the ghosts who would like nothing better than to drink your Mai Tai, eat your food and smell your incense.

Yalke Guen Mar, if you fail to do your filial duties, then ... well ... , you'll reap as you sow.

On November 5 each year, Homer Yale Mar and his siblings Virginia, Lawrence and Clarence pay respect to their beloved parents Ben Shee Mar and Susan Suey Oy Wong, and all the relatives and ancestors who have passed away. They tidy up the graves and tombstones of Ben Shee Mar and Susan Suey Oy Wong. They always offer food, flowers and paper money to their ancestors.

Ellen, Donald and Eugene do the same in Tucson, AZ every November 5 for their parents Tony Chee Mar and Kim Hi Wong.

Yale Guen Mar, have you ever visited the graves of your parents Tony Chee Mar and Kim Hi Wong? It is time you do so. What better time to start doing so than on November 5? Tony Chee Mar. would have been 102 - he was born on November 5, 1915.

Let this be a new beginning for you. Always pay a visit to the graves at Quingming Festival, Hungry Ghost Festival and the Double Nine Festival. Tend the graves, clean the tomb stones and clean the gravesites. Offer the best Mai Tai and the choicest Taishanese cuisine that was your parents' favorite.

Yale Guen Mar, if you play your cards right, Dr. Eugene Yale Mar might yet forgive you and accept you as friend on Facebook.
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Yale Guen Mar, when it comes to belittling others, you spare none. You chose to ridicule even your venerable cousin, Colonel Homer Yale Mar.
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Bullshit, Satish Kumar Madhavan. You don't even have the brain to guess.
I have no cousin at 75 years old. The one I used to fight like cat and dog is 3 years older than me, and he spent his whole life in the U.S. Army, retired as a colonel in the U.S. Army and living in Texas.
His mother used to say her son has an "easy life". The Chinese way of saying "easy life" is "walk walk eat". He just walks around, and he has money to spend, food to eat" = "walk walk eat".
You couldn't possibly "talk to them" as my uncle died of throat cancer in the 1980s, and my aunt died in 2000.
Yale Guen Mar, stop speaking ill of your accomplished cousin Homer Yale Mar. You are not even fit to lick the boots of cousin Homer who was an achiever.
You are the one who has been a lifetime into "walk walk eat". Cousin Homer Yale Mar was an achiever. He retired as a colonel in the US Army. You, Yale Guen Mar, on the other hand got a dishonorable discharge as a private. If you were not slapped with a loss of rank, it was only because you were already at the lowest rung in the army.
Uncle Ben Shee Mar and aunt Susan Suey Oy Wong were proud of their son, Homer.
You on the other hand were alwaysa deep disappointment for your parents Tony Chee Mar and Kim Hi Wong.
Yale Guen Mar, you revere Homer as a historian.
Which Homer is that?
(1) The author of Iliad and Odyssey?
(2) Title character in TV show - The Simpsons ?
(3) Isn't it really your cousin Homer Yale Mar?
Homer is indeed an accomplished person who retired a a colonel in the US Army. But I don't think he has ever claimed to be a historian.
Yale Guen Mar, you always had a love-hate relationship with cousin Homer. You used to needlessly pick fights with Homer. You fought like cats and dogs.
Cousin Homer was 3 years older. So, it isn't surprising that you always came out crying after the thrashing you received at Homer's hand. Yo used to run crying not just your mama, Kim Hi Wong, but even to your aunt Susan Suey Oy Wong.
But now you regret hating cousin Homer so much. Is that why you have taken to revering him as historian?
Yale Guen Mar, travel to Duncanville, Texas to meet your cousin and ask him for forgiveness before you croak. You'll have a better afterlife.
Yes, I know, you are in the no-fly list of airlines since 2010. But you can take the Greyhound or the Amtrak. Get going. At your age, there is no time to lose.
Tony Chee Mar and Ben Shee Mar were twins.
Tony Chee Mar married Kim Hi Wong. They had lasting regrets about son Yale Guen Mar who gave them only grief.
Tony Chee Mar (1915-1999) was born in 1915, to Hall T. Mar(actually, the twins were sired by Chan in Singapore) and Choi Kang Ma.
Tony married Kim Hi Wong. They had 5 children: Eugene Yale Mar, Yale Guen Mar, Donald Yale Mar and 2 other children.
Tony passed away in 1999, at age 84 in Arizona.
Yale Guen Mar was not allowed at the funeral because no one wanted him there.
Funeral rites for an elderly person follow the prescribed form and convey relevant respect: rites befitting the person's status, age etc. are performed even if this means the family of the deceased must go into debt to pay for them.
Ben Shee Mar and Susan Suye Oy Wong were fortunate to be honored at their burial by their children and grandchildren. They lie buried side by side in Duncanville, Texas.
Nephew Yale Guen Mar was not welcome at the funerals by the Mar clan, and for understandable reasons.
But then Yale Guen Mar wasn't welcome at the funerals of his parents Tony Chee Mar and Kim Hi Wong either. No one wanted him at the funerals.
At Qingming Festival every year, Homer Yale Mar and his siblings pay respect to their parents Ben Shee Mar and Susan Suey Oy Wong, and all relatives and ancestors who have passed away. They spend time tidying up the graves and tombstones of Ben Shee Mar and Susan Suey Oy Wong. They offer food, flowers and paper money to their ancestors.
In stark contrast, Yale Guen Mar spends time sulking about times when he got spanked by his father Tony Chee Mar and mother Kim Hi Wong for misbehavior.
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Parents are the worse part of any child's life.
Yale Guen Mar, you are a rank ingrate.

Your parents Kim Hi Wong and Tony Chee Mar did their best to guide you to e a useful citizen in your adopted land. But your character flaws always came in the way.

Stop berating your parents. I blame Lim Hi Wong and Tony Chee Mar, not for punishing you often, but for not punishing you often enough.

Get over your unfounded grudges, Yale Guen Mar.

You have never visited the graves of your parents. Do you know where they are?

Take a bus or atrain to Tucson, AZ. Visit the East Palm Cemetery.

Your parents are buried in Lot 49.

Be there on October 28 for the Double Nine Festival. Honor yourself by honoring your parents Kim Hi Wong and Tony Chee Mar and all your other ancestors.

Stay back till November 5. That's your dad's birthday. He was born on November 5, 1915.

Clean the tombstones. Tidy up the gravesites.

Offer them Mai Tai and the choicest Taishanese cuisine.

Offer flowers and paper money.

Burn incense.

Do all that and Dr. Eugene Yale Mar might yet forgive you in spite of all your transgressions. He might even accept you as a friend on Facebook.

So, Yale Guen Mar, go ahead. Buy a ticket to Tucson, AZ and do the needful.

You'll get to meet your siblings Ellen, Donald and Eugene. This year, Brenton, Luca and Valentina will also be there. So will Silvia, May Fung and Dr. Roberto Buonamici.

Yale Guen Mar, go to Tucson, AZ. Get over your unfounded grudges. Bond with your kith and kin.

That way, you'll get to die a happier man.
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Yale Guen Mar, never forget that Tony Chee Mar brought you up in his home in 914 10th Street in Phoenix, AZ. He let you work in his cafe. He taught you English and mathematics. He taught you the difference between a rational number and an irrational number.

If you failed to get an education, it was your fault, not theirs. Your siblings Ellen, Donald and Eugene didn't fail them. Donald, Ellen and Eugene are as honest and upright as they are accomplished.

Yale Gien Mar, you shouldn't grudge the fact that Tony Chee Mar cut off your pigtail the moment you landed in San Francisco on the Thanksgiving day of 1949.

Nor should you grudge Tony Chee Mar for refusing to shave a straight line along your head.

Tony Chee Mar was a thoughtful father. He didn't want you to be ridiculed and heckled by your school mates in the new country.

That is why he chopped off your pigtail as soon as you got off the boat in San Francisco. And that is why he shaved off all your hair so that you could grow a normal crew cut and meld with your classmates.

Yale Guen Mar, never blame your mother, Kim Hi Wong, and your father, Tony Chee Mar, for all your woes. Act like a grown up. For heaven's sake, you'll be 79 in less than 3 weeks. Act your age. You should make an honest attempt to own up to your deep character flaws before you croak.

Yale Guen Mar, aren't you the black sheep in the family?. KIm Hi Wong always worried about you. That is why she spanked you all the time to keep you in the straight and narrow. No wonder your buttocks were sore all the time when you were growing up.

But Kim Hi Wong's efforts to redeem you never succeeded . She could drag a mule like you to the well, but she couldn't make you drink from the well.

Yale Guen Mar, you will be 79 on February 1. Do you remember how you muddied the San Francisco Bay in 1949 as soon as you got off the boat from Hong Kong?

Yale Guen Mar, try to make a new beginning. Try hard to get over your grudge against your "dad" Tony Chee Mar.

Yale Guen Mar, you owe Tony Chee Mar everything. Recall that you met Tony Chee Mar for the first time as a 11 year old "Fresh of the Boat" in San Francisco - you had just arrived from Hong Kong in 1949 after the communists took over the country you were born in. Out of the kindness of his heart, Tony Chee Mar (a US citizen) declared that you were his son so that you could be in USA.

Recall what he told you when you arrived in San Francisco. Tony Chee Mar told you, "Yale, you are a turkey".

Tony Chee Mar then added, "This is Thanksgiving. We are going to have turkey."

Wonder-struck, you had said, "Dad, what is Thanksgiving, what is turkey?"

Tony Chee Mar did punish you often, but that was only because he had to and not because it gave him any pleasure. Yale Guen Mar, you were always a pain in the ass. But Tony Chee Mar hoped his (and Kim Hi Wong's) punishments will help you become a better person.

Unfortunately, that was not to be. You were simply incorrigible. You just couldn't stay out of mischief. This, together with the obsession you had developed as a child in rural China for finger-fucking pigs in their assholes, made it inevitable that you would never be more than the miserable self you are right now.

Your mommy, Kim Hi Wong, and your dad, Tony Chee Mar, were good parents and noble souls. Your accomplished siblings Donald Yale Mar, Ellen Heath and Eugene Yale Mar have never failed to acknowledge the contribution of their parents Kim Hi Wong and Tony Chee Mar to their own successes.

Yale Guen Mar, don't be an ingrate. Your plight is your own doing. Tony Chee Mar always did his best to bring you up the right way. It is the height of ingratitude to badmouth Tony Chee Mar for your own failings.

The only think Kim Hi Wong and Tony Chee Mar were ignorant of was that they were fighting a losing cause in trying to get an incorrigible rascal like you to grow up into decent human being like their other children Donald, Ellen and Eugene. One can drag a mule to the well, but it cannot be made to drink from the well unless it wants to.
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Yale Guen Mar, don't forget the Double Nine Festival on October 28. That's the seniors' Day. You have eaned the right to celebrate it by living to be 79.
You can get double the joy at the Double Nine Festival by remembering and honoring your "dad" Tony Chee Mar, your mother Kim Hi Wong and all your other ancestors. Show them respect.
Eat Chongyang cakes and drink chrysanthemum wine.
Best of all, go to Tucson, AZ and visit Lot 49 at East Palm Cemetery. Tend to the tombs of your parents Kim Hi Wong and Tony Chee Mar. Clean the gravesite and the tombstone.
Try to bond with your siblings Ellen, Donald and Eugene by exhibiting filial piety.
Eugene might yet forgive you and accept you as a friend on Facebook.
And then stay back till November 5 when Tony Chee Mar would have been 102.
That would be an ideal time for you to offer Mai Tai and the finest Taishanese cuisine to the ghosts of your parents Kim Hi Wong and Tony Chee Mar and all your other ancestors. Burn incense and paper money.
Yale Guen Mar, this is your opportunity to bond with your siblings Ellen, Donald and Eugene. If you play your cards right, the might finally forgive you and Eugene might accept you as a friend on Facebook.
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Yale Guen Mar, I am very disappointed that you failed to make the journey to Tucson, AZ for the Quing Ming Festival.

Perhaps you failed to come because your caregiver Meichi Thai refused to accompany you to make sure that you are in clean diapers at all times inside the East Palm Cemetery and especially when you are in Lot 49.

Whatever be the reason, you lost a great opportunity to be with your siblings Donald, Ellen and Eugene and with Brenton, Luca and Valentina. Even Silvia and May Fung were there.

You would have made a very good impression if you has only bothered to show up. Eugene may have forgiven you enough to accept you as a friend on Facebook.

Are you afraid that taking care of Tony Chee Mar's tomb is such a strenuous job that you don't want to be any part of it? Or is it because you are still sulking since 1949? Why are you giving silly excuses?

Yale Guen Mar, the heavens won't fall if you express your gratitude to Tony Chee Mar who signed papers in 1949 to declare you to be his son even though he had never met you before. Tony Chee Mar did it so that you could flee China after the CCP dictatorship took over. You are blessed that you were able to assume the identity of Tony Chee Mar's son.

Yale Guen Mar, you owe Tony Chee Mar everything. Recall that you met Tony Chee Mar for the first time as a 11 year old "Fresh of the Boat" in San Francisco - you had just arrived from Hong Kong in 1949 after the communists took over the country you were born in. Out of the kindness of his heart, Tony Chee Mar (a US citizen) declared that you were his son so that you could be in USA.

Anyway, this is the 21st century. It is not really necessary to be present in person at the tomb to do the needful at the Quing Ming Festival. Here's hi tech way for virtual mourning.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39487437

BBC News
April 4, 2017

Ancient Chinese tomb-sweeping festival goes hi-tech

Millions of ethnic Chinese people will be paying their respects to dead ancestors this week, as they observe the ancient Qing Ming festival.

The centuries-old festival, also known as "tomb sweeping day", is traditionally observed by sprucing up loved ones' graves and making offerings to their spirits.

But in recent years, it has taken on a more hi-tech style for some people.

Virtual mourning

This year, one cemetery in Nanjing in China has rolled out a special service for time-starved mourners, reported Beijing News.

If you can't get to the grave yourself, staff at the Yuhuatai Gongdeyuan cemetery will clean tombs and place bouquets for paying clients, who watch the ritual via a livestream on the Wechat app instead.

Many cemeteries now also operate online memorial pages, where you can pay your respects by burning virtual candles and buying virtual gifts, reports Shanghai Daily.

Some embed QR codes on tombstones - scanning the code with your phone allows you to access interactive memorials featuring photos and videos of your loved ones.

The Changqing cemetery in Beijing has gone one step further by removing the actual grave itself - the deceased is cremated and their ashes put in a biodegradable urn. The family is then given a plaque engraved with a QR code as a sort of virtual grave.

It is the latest space-saving measure in China where authorities have been promoting cremation and other alternatives to traditional burials.

Hiring professional mourners has also become increasingly popular in recent years among those unable to travel home to pay their respects.

But it has attracted an inevitable backlash among traditionalists who see it as insincere.

Going green

Another reason to encourage virtual mourning is that it cuts down on air pollution during the festival, which is officially on 4 April but is observed throughout the week.

The Chinese believe that burning joss sticks, joss paper, and paper offerings - sometimes quite large ones - honours the dead and transmits money and other goods to their loved ones in the afterlife.

In Singapore, one Buddhist temple this year has banned devotees from burning "treasure chests" - large paper boxes containing paper clothes and luxury goods - reports The Straits Times.

Meanwhile in Malaysia - where dengue fever is a concern - some shops are selling biodegradable urns for joss sticks, to replace normal urns which could collect rain water and breed mosquitoes.

Paper chase

Still, that has not stopped some Chinese people from splashing out on extravagant and modern offerings for the dead.

Burning paper versions of luxury clothes, handbags, watches, and gadgets is not uncommon.

One Chinese family in Malaysia this year took it to another level this year when they spent the equivalent of £3,035 ($3,800) on a life-size replica of a yellow Lamborghini.

The paper craftsman told the Sin Chew Daily newspaper that he had received orders for "super bikes, yachts, aeroplanes and bicycles" as well.
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Yale Guen Mar, your Hmong neighbors on Twilight Avenue in Merced, CA have more clout that you imagine. It speaks more about their generous nature than about their clout that they have tolerated you this long in the neighborhood.

But now it is time for you, Yale Guen Mar, to think of relocating yourself.

Yale Guen Mar, you need to relocate from Merced, CA before you get lynched by your enraged Hmong neighbors around 3851 Twilight Avenue in Merced, CA.

Yale Guen Mar, I don't think it would be a good idea for you to relocate to Duncanville, TX to escape the wrath of your Hmong neighbors and their dogs in Merced, CA. You'll soon become as much of a menace in Duncanville, TX as you are in Merced, CA.

But you should definitely visit Duncanville, TX once before you kick the bucket to ask Col. Homer Yale Mar for forgiveness. Homer is a noble soul. He'll forgive you if you show enough contrition.

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China's future Mars simulation base in Qinghai
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Yale Guen Mar, think of relocating to Qinghai in PRC if you can't reach for Europa.

It will be a big relief for your Hmong neighbors around 3851 Twilight Avenue in Merced, CA.

It will be a big relief for the neighborhood dogs and pigs as well.

But I do think Europa, rather than Qinghai, as Yale Guen Mar's future home will bring the neighborhood in Merced, CA a lot more relief.

Yale Guen Mar, you had expressed an interest in cohabiting with fishes in Europa.
Yale Guen Mar, will you survive a move to Europa (with or without your favorite pig) ?

Regardless, it will do the planet earth a lot of good to send you hurtling to Europa with a solid kick on your stupid asshole.

Yale Guen Mar, have you considered Kansas to move to if you can't make it to Europa or Qinghai?

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Yale Guen Mar, don't curse Kansas.

Kansas could have moulded you into a useful citizen if you had given Kansas a chance.

Yale Guen Mar, your Hmong neighbors in Merced, CA (and even their dogs) hate you. Why don't you relocate to Kansas if you can't make it to Europa?

Kansas has played a role in your life - it can still do.

As a teenager, it is in Kansas that you had worked one summer at the Junction City Cafe for your uncle Ben Shee Mar. But unfortunately things dodn't work out. Ben Shee gave up on his plan to send you tto college at Kansas State University in Manhattan, KS. You were sent back to Arizona.

Yale Guen Mar, your experience in Kansas in 2010 when you were 72 was very brief but very very dramatic.

Yale Guen Mar, you were transported back from Kansas to Merced, CA in a cage. But that was dictated by necessity.

It wasn't official policy to keep you locked up in the cage in the nude. That was your own decision. You had an ample supply of diapers. Ypu decided to be in the nude inside the cage. To make matters worse, you didn't use the litter box that you had been provided. You continued to shit anywhere and every where inside the cage. It was a good thing that you were inside the cage. That limited the area you could shit on.

Here's the newspaper report on that fiasco:

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Mercury Sun-Star
February 1, 2010

Septuagenerian's poop in jet leads to forced landing
AFP

A US Airways flight had to make an emergency landing yesterday after a septuagenerian passenger, Yale Guen Mar, repeatedly defecated in the plane's aisles.

The Boston-bound flight had to make the unexpected stop in Kansas, Missouri, when the passenger, Yale Guen Mar, relieved himself not once, but three times on the flight that had set off from San Francisco.

It was decided an emergency landing was the only solution, when the cabin crew had run out of paper towels to clean up the mess and the smell from the Yale Guen Mar's faeces began to make passengers feel physically ill.

One passenger, Carlton, told the American news magazine Inside Edition that about an hour into the flight passengers started "smelling this terrible smell," which was caused by an old passenger in his seventies.

"The second time after the passenger, Yale Guen Mar, pooped they ran out of paper towels, they didn't have anything else. The pilot comes on the radio, 'Hey, we have a situation in the back, we're going to have to emergency land'."

The pilot then contacted Kansas City International Airport to arrange a window to land in and organize a cleaning team to be deployed on their arrival.

After the mess was cleared, passengers were able to re-board the flight and continue their journey to Boston. But the erring passenger, Yale Guen Mar, was put in a locked cage with a shit-pit and loaded into a freight train bound for Merced, CA which is Yale Guen Mar's home town.

Another passenger, Brenton, reported the event on her Twitter and was full of praise for the flight crew.

Brenton said: "Easy to crush airlines in these situations, but the flight crew was just great through the ordeal posed by the septuagenerian Yale Guen Mar's repeated defecations.

US Airways spokesman Victor Buonamicci called the episode a "rare and unfortunate situation". But he promised that the US Airways will make sure that the septuagenerian Yale Guen Mar never makes another flight in US Airways

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Yale Guen Mar has been blacklisted by airlines for the fiasco in 2010.

Yale Guen Mar, even if Silivia were to relent, you still won't be able to fly to Boston. You burnt your bridges in 2010. You should have used better diapers during your aborted flight.
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Yale Guen Mar, make Saturday, Make October 28 a day of redemption.

It is the double nine festival. At 79,you have the benefit of age to honor yourself on October 29 in addition to honoring all your ancestors, especially your parents Kim Hi Wong and Tony Chee Mar. You ow everything to them.

Double your joy on double nine festival by paying tribute to your esteemed parents.

Indulge yourself with Chongyang cakes and drink chrysanthemum wine.

Better still, go to Tucson, AZ and visit Lot 49 at East Palm Cemetery. Attend to the tombs of your parents Tony Chee Mar and Kim Hi Wong. Tidy up the gravesite and polish the tombstone.

Bond with your siblings Ellen, Donald and Eugene by joining them in exhibiting filial piety.

Eugene could yet forgive you and accept you as a friend on Facebook.

Yale Guen Mar, stay back in Tucson, AZ after the Double Day Festival - stay back till at least November 5 when Tony Chee Mar would have been 102.

It would be an ideal time for you to offer premium Mai Tai and the finest Taishanese cuisine to the ghosts of your parents Kim Hi Wong and Tony Chee Mar and all your other ancestors. Burn incense and paper money and offer flowers.

Yale Guen Mar, this is your chance to bond with your siblings Ellen, Donald and Eugene. Play your cards right, and you might finally be forgiven by your siblings Ellen, Donald and Eugene.

In fact, Dr. Eugene Yale Mar might accept you as a friend on Facebook.
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