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UN Protectorate In Gaza Is Not A Solution, Says Guterres
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ltlee1
2023-12-09 19:02:03 UTC
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"A UN protectorate in Gaza would not solve the conflict there, the body's Secretary-General said Monday, calling instead for a "transition period" involving Arab nations and the United States and leading to a two-state solution.

Antonio Guterres said it was "important to be able to transform this tragedy into an opportunity" -- which, for him, meant moving "in a determined and irreversible way to a two-state solution."

This means, after the current war between Israel and Hamas fighters in Gaza ends, "a strengthened Palestinian Authority, assuming responsibilities in Gaza," he said.

But the Palestinian Authority cannot go into Gaza backed by Israeli tanks, he added -- meaning the "international community needs to look into a transition period."

"I do not think that a UN protectorate in Gaza is a solution," however, Guterres said.

Instead, he called for a "multi-stakeholder approach" that would see the US act as the "main guarantor" of Israel's security, while Arab nations are "essential" to support Palestinians.

"Everybody needs to come together to create the conditions for the transition, allowing for a strengthened Palestinian Authority to assume responsibilities in Gaza," and from there to a two-state solution, he said."

https://www.barrons.com/news/un-protectorate-in-gaza-is-not-a-solution-says-guterres-71b27f3e
ltlee1
2023-12-17 22:18:31 UTC
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"A UN protectorate in Gaza would not solve the conflict there, the body's Secretary-General said Monday, calling instead for a "transition period" involving Arab nations and the United States and leading to a two-state solution.
Antonio Guterres said it was "important to be able to transform this tragedy into an opportunity" -- which, for him, meant moving "in a determined and irreversible way to a two-state solution."
This means, after the current war between Israel and Hamas fighters in Gaza ends, "a strengthened Palestinian Authority, assuming responsibilities in Gaza," he said.
But the Palestinian Authority cannot go into Gaza backed by Israeli tanks, he added -- meaning the "international community needs to look into a transition period."
"I do not think that a UN protectorate in Gaza is a solution," however, Guterres said.
Instead, he called for a "multi-stakeholder approach" that would see the US act as the "main guarantor" of Israel's security, while Arab nations are "essential" to support Palestinians.
"Everybody needs to come together to create the conditions for the transition, allowing for a strengthened Palestinian Authority to assume responsibilities in Gaza," and from there to a two-state solution, he said."
https://www.barrons.com/news/un-protectorate-in-gaza-is-not-a-solution-says-guterres-71b27f3e
Arab nations and the United States have been involved for decades. Not the crisis has deepened.
At present, China could contribute positively on the long run by making Gaza-West Bank into another
hub of the BRI.
ltlee1
2023-12-23 16:27:59 UTC
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"A UN protectorate in Gaza would not solve the conflict there, the body's Secretary-General said Monday, calling instead for a "transition period" involving Arab nations and the United States and leading to a two-state solution.
Antonio Guterres said it was "important to be able to transform this tragedy into an opportunity" -- which, for him, meant moving "in a determined and irreversible way to a two-state solution."
This means, after the current war between Israel and Hamas fighters in Gaza ends, "a strengthened Palestinian Authority, assuming responsibilities in Gaza," he said.
But the Palestinian Authority cannot go into Gaza backed by Israeli tanks, he added -- meaning the "international community needs to look into a transition period."
"I do not think that a UN protectorate in Gaza is a solution," however, Guterres said.
Instead, he called for a "multi-stakeholder approach" that would see the US act as the "main guarantor" of Israel's security, while Arab nations are "essential" to support Palestinians.
"Everybody needs to come together to create the conditions for the transition, allowing for a strengthened Palestinian Authority to assume responsibilities in Gaza," and from there to a two-state solution, he said."
https://www.barrons.com/news/un-protectorate-in-gaza-is-not-a-solution-says-guterres-71b27f3e
Arab nations and the United States have been involved for decades. Not the crisis has deepened.
At present, China could contribute positively on the long run by making Gaza-West Bank into another
hub of the BRI.
If Palestine becomes China's protectorate, China could develop the land and help the people escape poverty
in a hurry. Of course, the prerequisite is that they have to forsake violence. And China would not be involved in
terroritorial issues. Those would be left to the two peoples, Israelis and Palestinians, to sort them out later.
Other nations, especially, the Gulf Council Nations have to agree with such a solution. Stop the cycles of violence
first. Followed by developing the people and the land, political and sovereignty the last.
bmoore
2023-12-23 22:29:25 UTC
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"A UN protectorate in Gaza would not solve the conflict there, the body's Secretary-General said Monday, calling instead for a "transition period" involving Arab nations and the United States and leading to a two-state solution.
Antonio Guterres said it was "important to be able to transform this tragedy into an opportunity" -- which, for him, meant moving "in a determined and irreversible way to a two-state solution."
This means, after the current war between Israel and Hamas fighters in Gaza ends, "a strengthened Palestinian Authority, assuming responsibilities in Gaza," he said.
But the Palestinian Authority cannot go into Gaza backed by Israeli tanks, he added -- meaning the "international community needs to look into a transition period."
"I do not think that a UN protectorate in Gaza is a solution," however, Guterres said.
Instead, he called for a "multi-stakeholder approach" that would see the US act as the "main guarantor" of Israel's security, while Arab nations are "essential" to support Palestinians.
"Everybody needs to come together to create the conditions for the transition, allowing for a strengthened Palestinian Authority to assume responsibilities in Gaza," and from there to a two-state solution, he said."
https://www.barrons.com/news/un-protectorate-in-gaza-is-not-a-solution-says-guterres-71b27f3e
Arab nations and the United States have been involved for decades. Not the crisis has deepened.
At present, China could contribute positively on the long run by making Gaza-West Bank into another
hub of the BRI.
If Palestine becomes China's protectorate, China could develop the land and help the people escape poverty
in a hurry. Of course, the prerequisite is that they have to forsake violence. And China would not be involved in
terroritorial issues. Those would be left to the two peoples, Israelis and Palestinians, to sort them out later.
Other nations, especially, the Gulf Council Nations have to agree with such a solution. Stop the cycles of violence
first. Followed by developing the people and the land, political and sovereignty the last.
1) China has wreaked havoc on HK, Tibet, etc. Now they're supposed to try it again with Gaza? Imagine...
2) Gaza won't renounce violence, period. Not in practice. Imagine that mess.
ltlee1
2024-01-02 15:21:15 UTC
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"A UN protectorate in Gaza would not solve the conflict there, the body's Secretary-General said Monday, calling instead for a "transition period" involving Arab nations and the United States and leading to a two-state solution.
Antonio Guterres said it was "important to be able to transform this tragedy into an opportunity" -- which, for him, meant moving "in a determined and irreversible way to a two-state solution."
This means, after the current war between Israel and Hamas fighters in Gaza ends, "a strengthened Palestinian Authority, assuming responsibilities in Gaza," he said.
But the Palestinian Authority cannot go into Gaza backed by Israeli tanks, he added -- meaning the "international community needs to look into a transition period."
"I do not think that a UN protectorate in Gaza is a solution," however, Guterres said.
Instead, he called for a "multi-stakeholder approach" that would see the US act as the "main guarantor" of Israel's security, while Arab nations are "essential" to support Palestinians.
"Everybody needs to come together to create the conditions for the transition, allowing for a strengthened Palestinian Authority to assume responsibilities in Gaza," and from there to a two-state solution, he said."
https://www.barrons.com/news/un-protectorate-in-gaza-is-not-a-solution-says-guterres-71b27f3e
"跨年之交,已持續逾80天的以巴戰爭仍看不到緩和跡象,以色列總理尼坦雅胡揚言將在加薩長期作戰,近日還因為以色列空襲敘利亞,涉嫌殺害一名伊朗革命衛隊資深將領,引來德黑蘭當局揚言報復,而伊朗資助的葉門胡塞武裝份子則又對紅海商船發動新一波襲擊,恐令中東緊張情勢在新年度進一步升高。

事實上,當愈來愈多的各國戰地記者死於轟炸、甚至被以色列軍方用GPS定位擊殺,以巴戰爭已產生重大的質變。原本支持以色列的歐美國家,逐漸出現不同程度的鬆動,美國總統拜登更發言批評尼坦雅胡政府。這場突如其來的區域衝突,已在歐美社會造成巨大的「挺猶vs.反猶風暴」,勢必帶來既深且廣的政治影響。

從10月7日哈瑪斯襲擊以色列,導致1,400人死亡,以色列反攻加薩走廊,造成超過1.5萬人喪命以來,針對這個國際人權危機,聯合國大會在11月到12月中數度做成停火決議,卻被美國在安理會「一票否決」。隨著國際社會的譴責聲浪高漲,美國國內輿情也出現兩極對抗,大學校園爆發「另類的以巴衝突」,哈佛大學、麻省理工學院、賓州大學等三所名校校長在國會聽證會上,因未對校內激烈反猶言論直接說出「YES or NO」的答案,而遭國會與學校金主痛批。結果導致賓大校長辭職,哈佛校長雖有校內師生連署力挺,卻又陷入「抄襲門」的案外案,也讓美國的言論自由受到極大挑戰。

在歐洲,法國和德國基於各自的歷史與現實,在以巴衝突的不同調,則使得歐盟陷入「人權有雙標,生命有貴賤」的窘境。對於去年2月24日開打的俄烏戰爭,歐盟國家一致譴責俄羅斯發動戰爭是侵略行為,造成烏克蘭人民大量死亡;在歐盟執委會主席馮德萊恩奔走下,更已啟動烏克蘭入歐的程序。然而,面對以哈衝突的現況,國內有800萬穆斯林的法國,對於中東戰局在「台前幕後」的關懷之情溢於言表,總統馬克宏更譴責以色列轟炸加薩平民「無正當性」,「恐怖攻擊不能合理化平民犧牲」,除了在11月4日提出「人道停火」,也在11月9日,於巴黎舉行「加薩(走廊)人道援助會議」。反觀德國,由於對納粹在二戰期間屠殺600萬猶太人(100萬是孩童)的種族滅絕行徑長存反省之心,因此在以巴戰爭的應對上,可謂如履薄冰。德國總理蕭茲不僅強調會保護德國猶太人不受傷害,更在11月13日正式表明「反對(在加薩走廊)立即停火」。

就以哈衝突對於歐美國家和社會所造成的影響觀之,以下課題值得正視。其一,由於明年底美國將舉行總統大選,因此促成以巴與俄烏兩場戰事的「停火」和「休戰」,只是時間問題。儘管以色列近日拒絕了埃及提出的三階段停戰協議,但拜登為了連任選情著想,不再無條件支持以色列的攻擊行動,在明年春季就有必須結束這兩場戰事的壓力。其二,美國社會已進一步分裂。共和黨堅決支持以色列,前總統川普更一再以煽動性語言要脅:若他當選將不讓穆斯林入境美國,並要把反猶挺哈學生趕出校園。至於民主黨的進步派和建制派、乃至於傳統的支持者,則在「生命至上vs.挺以優先」之間拉鋸,形成黨內鬩牆。

其三,由於以哈衝突和俄烏戰爭可能連動,歐盟、德國與法國領導人基於各自的政治利益,會做出不同的宣示,提出不盡相同的政策。影響所及,恐造成歐洲國家「三頭馬車」的進退失據。

其四,「說仁-論義-人權-自由」,曾經是歐美國家自詡的道德制高點,在歲末年終之際,以色列從北加薩進兵南加薩,發動堅壁清野的地面戰爭,以及「水淹哈瑪斯」的地下殲滅戰,造成眾多無辜百姓無力還手的死傷,讓阿拉伯世界及全球的伊斯蘭教國家和穆斯林同仇敵愾。如果以美國為首的西方國家勸和不成,則2024新年伊始,極可能看到以巴衝突擴大為新的中東戰爭,而歐美國家則難逃新的恐怖攻擊,令舉世人心惶惶,不得安寧。"

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ltlee1
2024-01-15 15:48:07 UTC
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"A UN protectorate in Gaza would not solve the conflict there, the body's Secretary-General said Monday, calling instead for a "transition period" involving Arab nations and the United States and leading to a two-state solution.
Antonio Guterres said it was "important to be able to transform this tragedy into an opportunity" -- which, for him, meant moving "in a determined and irreversible way to a two-state solution."
This means, after the current war between Israel and Hamas fighters in Gaza ends, "a strengthened Palestinian Authority, assuming responsibilities in Gaza," he said.
But the Palestinian Authority cannot go into Gaza backed by Israeli tanks, he added -- meaning the "international community needs to look into a transition period."
"I do not think that a UN protectorate in Gaza is a solution," however, Guterres said.
Instead, he called for a "multi-stakeholder approach" that would see the US act as the "main guarantor" of Israel's security, while Arab nations are "essential" to support Palestinians.
"Everybody needs to come together to create the conditions for the transition, allowing for a strengthened Palestinian Authority to assume responsibilities in Gaza," and from there to a two-state solution, he said."
https://www.barrons.com/news/un-protectorate-in-gaza-is-not-a-solution-says-guterres-71b27f3e
"China has called for a more authoritative and effective Israel-Palestine peace conference and road map to implement a two-state solution, as Tel Aviv’s assault on the Gaza Strip continues.

Speaking to reporters on Sunday, China’s Foreign Minister, Wang Yi, said the international community should “listen” carefully to the legitimate concerns in the Middle East, the Middle East Monitor reported.

“China calls for the convening of a larger-scale, more authoritative and more effective international peace conference, the formulation of a specific timetable and road map for the implementation of the ‘two-state solution’, and support for the prompt resumption of Israel-Palestinian peace talks,” Wang said, as quoted by Reuters news agency.

China and Egypt call for a ceasefire. pic.twitter.com/RQTvys1gLA

— Omar Sakr (@omarsakrpoet) January 15, 2024

His comments came after meetings with his Egyptian counterpart, Sameh Shoukry, in Cairo.

A Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson reportedly said on Monday that the road map needed to be “binding”.

“As for the timing and venue of the conference and where it will be hosted, I think it needs to be determined by all parties through consultation,” Mao Ning said at a regular news conference in Beijing, MEMO reported.

“China also welcomes the active role of the United Nations in this regard,” she said.

China’s top diplomat also on Sunday held talks with the secretary-general of the Arab League on the Gaza conflict and expressed concerns over the Red Sea.

“Influential countries, in particular, need to play an objective, impartial and constructive role in this regard,” the two diplomats said in a joint statement released on Monday by the Chinese foreign ministry.

Last week, Wang said President Xi Jinping had “in-depth communication” with the leaders of Saudi Arabia and Iran to persuade them to let go of past grievances, according to MEMO. He reportedly added that their restoration of ties in 2023 had set off a “wave of reconciliation” across the Middle East.

Wang is currently traveling through Egypt, Tunisia, Togo, and the Ivory Coast until Thursday."

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/china-urges-israel-palestine-peace-conference-road-map/
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