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AAA KKK
2024-08-20 02:34:09 UTC
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China must become a democracy Now.
ltlee1
2024-08-22 22:10:17 UTC
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China is democracy now.
bmoore
2024-08-26 19:47:23 UTC
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Post by ltlee1
China is democracy now.
Since when?
ltlee1
2024-08-29 19:04:44 UTC
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It depends on what criteria are used.
A small number of people from far away places?
Whether racial, gender equality should be equal and etc.
As a matter of procedure or outcome based, democratic processes as a
plan and democratic processes in the real world is different things.

The US as well as other democratic nations, for example China, have the
same problem. After all, no God had ever decreed which nation is
democratic.
bmoore
2024-08-30 16:34:40 UTC
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It depends on what criteria are used.
So what criteria are being used?
Post by ltlee1
A small number of people from far away places?
Whether racial, gender equality should be equal and etc.
As a matter of procedure or outcome based, democratic processes as a
plan and democratic processes in the real world is different things.
The US as well as other democratic nations, for example China, have the
same problem.
China is not democratic. Maybe you meant the island democracy of Taiwan?
Post by ltlee1
After all, no God had ever decreed which nation is
democratic.
So what criteria are being used?
ltlee1
2024-08-30 16:54:03 UTC
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My previous posts was about China, the PRC, not the ROC. (By the way,
Taiwan as a legitimate politic entity does not exist, its official name
is ROC.)

The PRC is democratic because it enables and empowers the people work
hard for themselves and for the nation.
Procedurally, it is called democratic centralism. And of course, the
Chinese people themselves considered: 1) democracy is important and 2)
China is democratic according polls.


Bloomberg headline read "China Is More Democratic Than America, Say the
People. "
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-06-26/which-nations-are-democracies-some-citizens-might-disagree

The above article reported the 2020 poll. There had been a similar poll
looking the issue. This second poll also include the ROC and asked some
the questions. Again, the PRC was considered democratic by the Chinese
people.
bmoore
2024-08-30 23:05:29 UTC
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My previous posts was about China, the PRC, not the ROC. (By the way,
Taiwan as a legitimate politic entity does not exist, its official name
is ROC.)
Everyone knows what Taiwan is. Call it ROC, Chinese Taipei, doesn't matter.
Post by ltlee1
The PRC is democratic because it enables and empowers the people work
hard for themselves and for the nation.
Procedurally, it is called democratic centralism. And of course, the
Chinese people themselves considered: 1) democracy is important and 2)
China is democratic according polls.
Bloomberg headline read "China Is More Democratic Than America, Say the
People. "
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-06-26/which-nations-are-democracies-some-citizens-might-disagree
The above article reported the 2020 poll. There had been a similar poll
looking the issue. This second poll also include the ROC and asked some
the questions. Again, the PRC was considered democratic by the Chinese
people.
Can't trust the polls in countries like the PRC.
ltlee1
2024-08-31 12:18:52 UTC
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Post by ltlee1
My previous posts was about China, the PRC, not the ROC. (By the way,
Taiwan as a legitimate politic entity does not exist, its official name
is ROC.)
Everyone knows what Taiwan is. Call it ROC, Chinese Taipei, doesn't matter.
1) Who is your everyone? Many, for example, the other poster do not seem
to know that. For your information, Taipei is the name of a city, not
the capital of a country.

2) ROC has its constitution, called ROC Constitution. Taiwan does not.
ROC Constitution entails the vision of the Chinese people on how the ROC
should be, then, now, and in the future. According to the ROC
Constitution, Mainland China and Taiwan belong to the same country
called China and of One Chinese People.
bmoore
2024-09-01 23:26:26 UTC
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Post by ltlee1
My previous posts was about China, the PRC, not the ROC. (By the way,
Taiwan as a legitimate politic entity does not exist, its official name
is ROC.)
Everyone knows what Taiwan is. Call it ROC, Chinese Taipei, doesn't matter.
1) Who is your everyone? Many, for example, the other poster do not seem
to know that.
Why? The OP said nothing to indicate that.
Post by ltlee1
For your information, Taipei is the name of a city, not
the capital of a country.
The IOC would disagree.
Post by ltlee1
2) ROC has its constitution, called ROC Constitution. Taiwan does not.
ROC Constitution entails the vision of the Chinese people on how the ROC
should be, then, now, and in the future. According to the ROC
Constitution, Mainland China and Taiwan belong to the same country
called China and of One Chinese People.
Again, call it Taiwan or something else, whatever.
ltlee1
2024-08-31 12:27:04 UTC
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Post by ltlee1
Bloomberg headline read "China Is More Democratic Than America, Say the
People. "
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-06-26/which-nations-are-democracies-some-citizens-might->>disagree
The above article reported the 2020 poll. There had been a similar poll
looking the issue. This second poll also include the ROC and asked some
the questions. Again, the PRC was considered democratic by the Chinese
people.
Can't trust the polls in countries like the PRC.
Whatever.
Meaningless unless you are also providing contradicting evidence from
legitimate source.
bmoore
2024-08-31 12:55:44 UTC
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Post by ltlee1
Bloomberg headline read "China Is More Democratic Than America, Say the
People. "
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-06-26/which-nations-are-democracies-some-citizens-might->>disagree
The above article reported the 2020 poll. There had been a similar poll
looking the issue. This second poll also include the ROC and asked some
the questions. Again, the PRC was considered democratic by the Chinese
people.
Can't trust the polls in countries like the PRC.
Whatever.
Meaningless unless you are also providing contradicting evidence from
legitimate source.
It's not hard to find. Even the pollsters admit that.

But there is no evidence that the polls can be trusted.
bmoore
2024-09-01 23:29:44 UTC
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Post by ltlee1
Bloomberg headline read "China Is More Democratic Than America, Say the
People. "
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-06-26/which-nations-are-democracies-some-citizens-might->>disagree
The above article reported the 2020 poll. There had been a similar poll
looking the issue. This second poll also include the ROC and asked some
the questions. Again, the PRC was considered democratic by the Chinese
people.
Can't trust the polls in countries like the PRC.
Whatever.
Meaningless unless you are also providing contradicting evidence from
legitimate source.
It's not hard to find. Even the pollsters admit that.
But there is no evidence that the polls can be trusted.
And it's a joke to constantly disparage the Western press except when their articles support your viewpoint.
ltlee1
2024-09-02 15:05:48 UTC
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I start a new thread to answer your comment.

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