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Putin sign new decree making everything nuclear clear for Russia's adversaries
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ltlee1
2024-11-19 16:37:48 UTC
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"Russia exercises nuclear deterrence "in relation to a potential
adversary." The doctrine defines potential adversaries as "individual
states and military coalitions (blocs, alliances) that view the Russian
Federation as a potential adversary" that have nuclear weapons or
"significant combat potential of general-purpose forces."
..

In addition, the doctrine separately lists military dangers, which
"depending on changes in the military-political and strategic situation
may develop into military threats to the Russian Federation", for the
neutralisation of which "nuclear deterrence shall be carried out".

Such threats include:

enemy's possession of weapons of mass destruction that can be used
against Russia;
enemy's possession of missile defence systems, medium- and
shorter-range cruise and ballistic missiles, high-precision non-nuclear
and hypersonic weapons, drones;
the build-up of "general-purpose force groups that include nuclear
weapon delivery vehicles" near the borders of Russia or of its allies;
the creation of missile defence and anti-satellite warfare systems
in space;
the deployment of nuclear weapons on the territory of non-nuclear
states;
the creation of new and expansion of old coalitions and military
blocs "leading to the approach of their military infrastructure to the
borders of the Russian Federation";
actions of a potential enemy "aimed at isolating part of the
territory of the Russian Federation";
enemy actions that could lead to environmental or social disasters;
planning and conducting "large-scale military exercises near the
borders” of Russia;
uncontrolled proliferation of weapons of mass destruction."

https://english.pravda.ru/news/russia/161212-putin-russianuclear-doctrine/
bmoore
2024-11-19 22:44:46 UTC
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Post by ltlee1
"Russia exercises nuclear deterrence "in relation to a potential
adversary." The doctrine defines potential adversaries as "individual
states and military coalitions (blocs, alliances) that view the Russian
Federation as a potential adversary" that have nuclear weapons or
"significant combat potential of general-purpose forces."
..
In addition, the doctrine separately lists military dangers, which
"depending on changes in the military-political and strategic situation
may develop into military threats to the Russian Federation", for the
neutralisation of which "nuclear deterrence shall be carried out".
enemy's possession of weapons of mass destruction that can be used
against Russia;
enemy's possession of missile defence systems, medium- and
shorter-range cruise and ballistic missiles, high-precision non-nuclear
and hypersonic weapons, drones;
the build-up of "general-purpose force groups that include nuclear
weapon delivery vehicles" near the borders of Russia or of its allies;
the creation of missile defence and anti-satellite warfare systems
in space;
the deployment of nuclear weapons on the territory of non-nuclear
states;
the creation of new and expansion of old coalitions and military
blocs "leading to the approach of their military infrastructure to the
borders of the Russian Federation";
actions of a potential enemy "aimed at isolating part of the
territory of the Russian Federation";
enemy actions that could lead to environmental or social disasters;
planning and conducting "large-scale military exercises near the
borders” of Russia;
uncontrolled proliferation of weapons of mass destruction."
https://english.pravda.ru/news/russia/161212-putin-russianuclear-doctrine/
A Soviet mother gave three kopeks to her son. She said, "Go to the newsstand, get a copy of Pravda for your father,
Izvestia for me, and Komosol Pravda for you." The boy took the coins and headed out to get the papers. Along the way,
he saw his father who asked him where he was going. He told him, but the father shook his head and took the money from
the boy. "We don't need these. We have the radio." The boy went back to his mother and told her what her father had
said. She then gave him two kopeks and said, "Get Izvestia for me and Komosol Pravda for you."

"But what about father?"

"That's okay, he can wipe his ass with the radio."
ltlee1
2024-11-21 15:32:43 UTC
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Post by bmoore
A Soviet mother gave three kopeks to her son. She said, "Go to the
newsstand, get a copy of Pravda for your father,
Izvestia for me, and Komosol Pravda for you." The boy took the coins and
headed out to get the papers. Along the way,
he saw his father who asked him where he was going. He told him, but the
father shook his head and took the money from
the boy. "We don't need these. We have the radio." The boy went back to
his mother and told her what her father had
said. She then gave him two kopeks and said, "Get Izvestia for me and
Komosol Pravda for you."
"But what about father?"
"That's okay, he can wipe his ass with the radio."
Don't know the relevancy of the Pravda story from last century.

In case you think Russia change its nuclear doctrine is a good thing,
please inform.
bmoore
2024-11-23 23:17:41 UTC
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Post by bmoore
A Soviet mother gave three kopeks to her son. She said, "Go to the
newsstand, get a copy of Pravda for your father,
Izvestia for me, and Komosol Pravda for you." The boy took the coins and
headed out to get the papers. Along the way,
he saw his father who asked him where he was going. He told him, but the
father shook his head and took the money from
the boy. "We don't need these. We have the radio." The boy went back to
his mother and told her what her father had
said. She then gave him two kopeks and said, "Get Izvestia for me and
Komosol Pravda for you."
"But what about father?"
"That's okay, he can wipe his ass with the radio."
Don't know the relevancy of the Pravda story from last century.
“There is no Pravda in Izvestia and no Izvestia in Pravda”

As relevant as ever.
Post by ltlee1
In case you think Russia change its nuclear doctrine is a good thing,
please inform.
Taking Pravda at its word or Putin at his word is not recommended for thinking people.
ltlee1
2024-11-24 19:47:30 UTC
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Post by bmoore
Taking Pravda at its word or Putin at his word is not recommended for thinking people.
Putin's new doctrine is basically two parts:

1. The doctrine defines potential adversaries as "individual
states and military coalitions (blocs, alliances) that view the Russian
Federation as a potential adversary" that have nuclear weapons or
"significant combat potential of general-purpose forces."

2. ...the doctrine separately lists military dangers, which
"depending on changes in the military-political and strategic situation
may develop into military threats to the Russian Federation", for the
neutralisation of which "nuclear deterrence shall be carried out".

Please elaborate on what part of the above should not be taken seriously
by what "thinking people."
bmoore
2024-11-25 02:27:02 UTC
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Post by bmoore
Taking Pravda at its word or Putin at his word is not recommended for thinking people.
1. The doctrine defines potential adversaries as "individual
states and military coalitions (blocs, alliances) that view the Russian
Federation as a potential adversary" that have nuclear weapons or
"significant combat potential of general-purpose forces."
2. ...the doctrine separately lists military dangers, which
"depending on changes in the military-political and strategic situation
may develop into military threats to the Russian Federation", for the
neutralisation of which "nuclear deterrence shall be carried out".
Please elaborate on what part of the above should not be taken seriously
by what "thinking people."
Putin does whatever he wants. Whatever he says is just an attempt to manipulate.

Putin is a really bad guy, and probably insane. It's hard to understand how an
supposedly intelligent person could miss that.

ltlee1
2024-11-21 15:32:29 UTC
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A Soviet mother gave three kopeks to her son. She said, "Go to the
newsstand, get a copy of Pravda for your father,
Izvestia for me, and Komosol Pravda for you." The boy took the coins and
headed out to get the papers. Along the way,
he saw his father who asked him where he was going. He told him, but the
father shook his head and took the money from
the boy. "We don't need these. We have the radio." The boy went back to
his mother and told her what her father had
said. She then gave him two kopeks and said, "Get Izvestia for me and
Komosol Pravda for you."
"But what about father?"
"That's okay, he can wipe his ass with the radio."
Don't know the relevancy of the Pravda story from last century.

In case you think Russia changing its nuclear doctrine is a good thing,
please inform.
ltlee1
2024-11-20 17:25:22 UTC
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"Erdoğan warns of ‘new, bigger war’ after US missile decision

A recent decision by the United States to allow Ukraine to use the
long-range American missiles against Russia may trigger a new and bigger
war, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has warned, urging all relevant
parties to act carefully and avoid provocations.

“First and foremost, we do not consider it a right decision, nor do we
approve of it,” Erdoğan said on a question about the Biden
administration’s decision to allow Ukraine to use Army Tactical Missile
System (ATACMS) against Russia, on his return from the G20 summit on
Nov. 20.

Criticizing outgoing U.S. President Joe Biden for fueling and spreading
the war between Russia and Ukraine, Erdoğan said this move has pushed
Russian leader Vladimir Putin to amend his country’s nuclear weapons
doctrine.

“All these may bring the region and the world to the brink of a new and
bigger war. Nothing can be achieved with the understanding of ‘after me,
the deluge.' Our expectation and wish is to see Russia and Ukraine focus
on peace by keeping calm and avoid provocations,” Erdoğan said."

https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/erdogan-warns-of-new-bigger-war-after-us-missile-decision-202826
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